Comments on: Another Old Income Tax Study http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=another-old-income-tax-study it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7331 Fred Zimmerman Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:38 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7331 Peg,

I think there are a couple of aspects to the question of whether an income tax would “benefit” Ann Arbor businesses Both the Gramsci study and the 2004 study reached unequivocal conclusions that the income tax would result in a very substantial — multi-million dollar — shift of taxes from businesses to (primarily) nonresidents and (partly) residents. Money talks!

I agree that even despite that $ savings, an income tax would be bad for business. I agree with all the arguments about burdening business owners, creating disincentives for job creation, etc.

But, Peg, if you are still connected to the Chamber, I wouldn’t advise either you or the Chamber to wait for the ballot initiative to be proposed … the “complete discussion” has already begun, here and at Arbor Update … it’s pretty interesting to see city politics moving online.

I heartily agree that city should plan on cutting spending because I think there is no way an income tax will pass.

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By: Peg Eisenstodt http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7227 Peg Eisenstodt Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:17:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7227 The idea of an Ann Arbor city income tax was discussed in detail by the Ann Arbor Area Chamber of Commerce, I believe both in 1997 and 2004. The Chamber’s Public Policy committee, of which I was a member, spent a lot of time on this issue. It is important to gather all points of view and include in the discussion reports that the Chamber put out on the topic. Although at the moment I don’t recall all of the details, it is my recollection that the Chamber felt a city income tax would NOT benefit most businesses and felt that the U of M study, led by Edward Gramlich, was lacking and did not necessarily reflect the reality of such a tax in Ann Arbor. In this tough business climate, we want to make sure we don’t put an extra burden on businesses or employees and make the situation even worse. Fortunately, such a tax would have to be voted on by city residents so a complete discussion would likely occur if a ballot initiative is proposed. In the meantime, the city should continue to look for ways to cut their spending and not start counting their eggs before they are hatched – or voted on…

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By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7131 Fred Zimmerman Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:47:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7131 Well, that’s certainly an authoritative author!

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7129 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:37:45 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7129 I also noticed that the report does not give information about its authorship or how it came about.

It was the result of the recommendation of the Budget Review Committee, reported in the Council minutes of May 13, 1996. The committee recommended “contracting with a consultant” as the first step…toward potential implementation of a city income tax.”

Here is the entry in the Council minutes of February 2, 1997: “Edward Gramlich, Dean of the University of Michigan School of Public Policy, and his graduate students, Karen Gates, Kim Hill, Chris Sauer, Darby Miller Steiger and Meghan Henson, presented a summary of ΑThe Revenue Impacts of a City Income
Tax for Ann Arbor. Mr. Gramlich reported that the purpose of the study was not to support or oppose a city income tax, but to analyze its impact on the City budget and on different categories of individuals in the City.”

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By: Steve Pierce http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7126 Steve Pierce Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:45:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7126 The study is not correct when it says that workers in Detroit and live in Ann Arbor would not pay in Ann Arbor. It was learned to the Ypsi tax fight that a resident that works in an income tax city pays the non resident rate in both cities.

So if you work in Detroit you pay the 1.25% non resident rate to Detroit and live in Ann Arbor you pay the 0.5% non-resident rate to Ann Arbor. This was according the treasury official from Pontiac during one of the town hall meetings and Ypsi’s legal counsel.

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By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/20/another-old-income-tax-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7109 Fred Zimmerman Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:57:45 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12105#comment-7109 The first thing I noticed was that on p. 39 of the PDF the study came to the same conclusion as the more recent study: this is a huge tax break for businesses. Both scenarios lead to a tax reduction for businesses of 30%, or $6.1M.

In light of this, I renew my call for improved disclosure of financial interests by advocates of the income tax, especially the pseudonymous ones.

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