Comments on: A River of Blue Light http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-river-of-blue-light it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Gill http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28797 Gill Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:49:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28797 Well, he is trying to make the most out of what is left after the poorly conceived City Hall expansion. There does not appear to have been much long range planning in the building placement, as it eliminates the possibility of ever including a sufficiently-sized court yard (gathering space) entrance to City Hall (sorry, Municpal Center). If the building addition were to have occurred on the north or east side of the existing building, a meeting space could have been established that would have had room for a more encompassing storm water display.

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By: Susan http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28783 Susan Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:14:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28783 I really wanted to like this art. Really. But I’m with Marvin (10). Almost half the year this $800,000 steel and LED leaning tower fountain will be dry. How inspiring. At least he didn’t include a parking structure sized mural of himself designing it on the side of the “new” city hall.

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By: mr dairy http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28779 mr dairy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:52:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28779 Thank you Ann Arbor Chronicle.

This is the type of debate that the AAPAC should have engaged in before making any decision.

Unfortunately, this was a decision made by an elite group chosen by another group of elitists with little input from a community fully prepared and equipped to debate and discuss these kinds of issues. Just another example of how skewed discussion of political, social and cultural issues has become in Ann Arbor.

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By: Marvin Face http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28771 Marvin Face Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:26:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28771 I want to preface my comment by stating that I am absolutely for the 1% for art program. I think it is something that is great for Ann Arbor. However, I still have to agree with John in comment #3.

If there is a blind competition that is open to all and judged on the creative and conceptual merits alone, I pretty much guarantee this design would not be the winner. How inspired is a small trickle of water, some steel, a few LED lights and massive sweeps of concrete? What does that say conceptually about the local area or the region we live in? And what about the inside…a relief map of the Huron River Watershed and engravings of local plants and their extensive root systems? I call “CLICHE”! You would the thrown out of first year design class if you tried something like that. What about bringing some water into the building so it reflects the sun or lights onto the ceiling or the tricle can be heard echoing though the lobby? Something.

His basic concept is always to capture rainwater and recirculate it in an interesting way. Fine. Techically that part is simple. Lots of people could be given this as a design requirement and off we go to open local/regional/US/international artists to be inspired. I still maintain that, even though Margaret seems to be covering her tracks now saying they looked for artists, they essentially commissioned this work. I think it was the wrong approach.

I have been to Tanner Springs Park in Portland that was at least partially designed by Herbert. If we got a Tanner Springs, or even a fraction of it, I would be ecstatic. We did not get a Tanner Springs Park.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28756 Vivienne Armentrout Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:01:32 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28756 Sorry, meant First and William, where a parking lot currently exists and council is proposing a park. First and Washington is a development zone, of course.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28755 Vivienne Armentrout Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:00:27 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28755 Maybe it could be the centerpiece of the park at First and Washington.

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By: mr dairy http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28751 mr dairy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:10:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28751 I don’t think that many people will actually walk a few blocks to city hall for all but the most spectacular work of art. I also tend to doubt that many people will cross busy streets like Huron or 5th Ave. That sentiment (and according to the DDA’s constant desire for more downtown parking) is evident from people’s unwillingness to walk even a few blocks to a downtown restaurant or store much less to a sculpture at a municipal building.

There is precious little green open space in downtown and Driesetl’s sculpture will be dwarfed by the buildings around it. Traffic pollution and noise, the Fire Hall won’t help anyone appreciate the what he’s trying to say. What little greenery or water there is in his work (7 months a year) associated with the sculpture wont negate its poor location. Real Big Picture thinking by the AAPAC (political appointees serving the “vision” of their appointers) and the bureaucrats and politicians who hold the purse strings would have been better served by open debate and discussion from a wider group of people including local artists.

DrieseitI’s work would have been better located on the drainage area at the YMCA on Huron or along the proposed nearby Allen Creek Greenway than at city hall. I can better imagine you and your children walking along a greenway that follows the path of the Allen Creek and stopping to experience Driesetl’s work in pleasant surroundings more than I can imagining you crossing Huron to sit at the front door of the Police and Courts building to look at, contemplate, regardless of it’s high concept, what is little more than a modern fountain.

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By: Julie http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28744 Julie Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:31:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28744 Mr. Dairy,
My thoughts about the location differ from yours a bit. I agree it’s a bit of a dead zone. But as Ann Arbor continues to work on zoning etc to increase the vital areas downtown, the hope is that vitality will expand a bit geographically. And I know that I, for one, will walk the extra block or two to hang out at this new courtyard, bring my kids to visit it, etc. I’m sure I’m not the only one. We don’t have a lot of places downtown to go sit and take a rest (just Liberty Plaza, really), and I think this could be a destination place.

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By: mr dairy http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28743 mr dairy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:10:46 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28743 I like the sculpture and sometimes art is not fully appreciated in concept or when first viewed. The problem with how the process was handled by the AAPAC and it’s location.

The proposed sculpture is out of place at that location. City Hall is in a dead zone. It has no sense of place and I doubt that a sculpture will make people forget their troubles or reflect on their municipal business in a different way. We have a different and sometimes not so charitable view of government here in the US than Europeans do. City Hall has never been a place where people gather for reflection or socializing. I doubt that a beautiful sculpture will inspire people to sit and reflect regardless of Driesetl’s meaningful concept People will either glimpse the work as they drive by on Huron or 5th or when they attend to their timely public business. Few people actually enjoy going into city hall for much of anything. A work of art, no matter how high minded wont change this.

I’m a firm believer in public art and think the 1% is a good idea, but this sculpture seems to me to be little more than a poorly thought out idea by political appointees in a location unrelated to the artists concept or his previous work. It’s more of a monument to government than it is a piece that makes us think our relationship to the environment.

If there is serious consideration of a Greenway through downtown along the Allen Creek, such a work of art or something similar would have been better located along the Greenway where water is an integral part of our environment. It would have been an attraction along the Greenway and a place for people who seek a green open space in downtown for relaxation or contemplation away from all the concrete and asphalt.

This sculpture at that location is the result of insufficient public input and open debate. It is not the result of “thinking big” by anyone except the artist.

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By: hospadaruk http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/07/22/a-river-of-blue-light/comment-page-1/#comment-28702 hospadaruk Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:55:26 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=24882#comment-28702 Great story Helen.
It looks like a really nice work, I attended a seminar where Dreiseitl talked about many other of his installations and I like what he does. He is a remarkable guy and worth looking into. Check this out:
link to Dreiseitl

It’s no accident that A2 is remarkably buffered from the economic woes being experienced by the rest of SE Michigan. Ann Arbor is a place where people want to live and companies are attracted to it. Sure the U is a big contributor to this attraction, but so are the forward thinking townies that realize the value of things that are good and beautiful – we know they are necessary as well.
I don’t mind a good witch hunt now and then, let’s see, who can we run out of town now…

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