Comments on: Column: On Finding the Ward 4 Candidates http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Leah Gunn http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32960 Leah Gunn Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:48:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32960 eeek – of course that would be “pleased” – sorry!

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By: Leah Gunn http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32959 Leah Gunn Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:47:23 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32959 I guess everything was settled on Nov. 3, when the Fourth Ward re-elected Marcia Higgins by 62% of the vote, in spite of the vituperative remarks by Lou Glorie, Pat Lesko and others, and also in spite of the prediction on AU by David Cahill that she would lose.

Marcia’s daughter is very, very ill with cancer, and not expected to survive, hence her reluctance to spend a lot of time campaigning door-to-door. She had a devoted team of surrogates who filled in for her, and these folks did a wonderful job.

I am plased and proud to have been part of it.

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By: RunsWithScissors http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32742 RunsWithScissors Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:15:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32742 Oh. My. Gawd. This bickering and mud-slinging is the funniest thing since, well, I don’t know. I had no idea that such vituperative attacks were possible in our lil’ old town of Ann Arbor. The Daily Show would do well to take lessons from the likes of us. I’m not in Ward 4 but heaven help the ones who are.

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By: Larry Kestenbaum http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32595 Larry Kestenbaum Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:12:32 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32595 I commend Dave, Mary, and Judy for being steadfast in this.

As a candidate, and as a public official, I have always been willing to speak with reporters. Indeed, reporters often call me because they see me as someone who will give them candid answers about local politics.

Moreover, I write frequent comments on local blogs and AnnArbor.com. Yes, I am very busy, but not so busy that I need any surrogates to speak on my behalf.

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By: yet another http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32581 yet another Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:51:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32581 Just read the Chronicle column by Ann Arbor Observer editor/owner John Hilton on email responses vs. live interviews, in context of the 4th Ward council election and McGovern’s column. It appears I was incorrect in comment #80 to downplay the significance to the Observer of email-only communications between candidate Elhady and editor/reporter Eve Silberman. For pre-election coverage in their November issue, they did wish to speak to him directly and ask questions.

After reading Hilton’s column, I’m now even more troubled by some of the comments posted here during the week that sought to defend Elhady’s strategic decision to avoid a live interview for the column above. Among these were attempts to deflect responsibility from the Elhady camp by deeply personalizing the matter — by seeking to have McGovern’s character and professionalism put on trial. There was insistence that she, specifically, was the source of the “problem” and should become the real focus, and that her column showed bad judgement by the editors. Now it turns out the Elhady campaign gave Silberman at the Observer the exact same non-interview treatment as McGovern.

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By: Jeff Meyers http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32577 Jeff Meyers Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:22:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32577 Dave, I should have chosen my description more carefully… please chalk it up to the flu currently decimating all cognitive functions in our household. I meant it simply as the past tense of… I ran into Dave Askins… not had a run in with you, which I think it was anything but.

Nevertheless, I stand behind both your column and your position on the Elhady non-interview.

Reading John Hilton of The Observer’s account further reinforces my view that the Elhady campaign has been less than forthcoming in both access and honesty. This shouldn’t be read as an endorsement of his opponent but rather as a red flag as to how Mr. Elhady might comport himself as a member of council.

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By: yet another http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32570 yet another Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:33:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32570 Fred,

Agree what what you write above in #83, and sorry I misunderstood these points in your earlier comment (#73).

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32561 Dave Askins Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:48:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32561 Re: “a brief run in with Dave Askins …” I would have described the chance encounter as “running into you,” but not as a “run in with” you. A “run in with” someone, when I use it, suggests more like an argument or an altercation, which our conversation didn’t feel at all like to me. My apologies if that’s how it played for you.

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By: Jeff Meyers http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32560 Jeff Meyers Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:29:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32560 I am definitely weighing in late here (flu, life, etc)… but a brief run in with Dave Askins convinced me to show my support for both the Chronicle’s position on this matter and his ensuing opinion column (which was clearly marked as such).

No news gathering publication should ever accept the ‘terms’ Mr. Elhady laid out. Especially for something as important as an election. The Sarah Palin example is a good one. An email
‘interview’ isn’t an interview at all. Or, at least, not a probotive one. Not only does it not allow for important follow up questions, there is simply no guarantee that the responses come directly from the candidate. That is a particular concern in this race where surrogates (with well established political agendas)seem to be doing the majority of communication.

While Mr. Elhady is under no obligation to speak to any particular publication, there is an irony that he is a candidate who calls so vigorously for transparency in government. Knowing the Chronicle’s rigorous approach to its stories, I would have been keen to have read such an interview. I am sure it would have painted a more complete picture of his candidacy, more than any other local publication. But if there is one truism in politics, virtues like ethics, transparency, and honesty always apply to the OTHER guy (or gal, in this case)… never to the person demanding change.

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By: Frank Schwende http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/10/25/column-on-finding-the-ward-4-candidates/comment-page-2/#comment-32558 Frank Schwende Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:00:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=30754#comment-32558 I DO live in the fourth ward. Looking for information about the candidates, I went to annarbor.com, then the Chronicle. My own feelings are that I’m disappointed that Mr. Elhady didn’t just do the live interview. That McGovern insisted on a face-to-face is admirable journalistic ethics. That the Chronicle stands behind the McGovern piece demonstrates integrity. I’ll continue to go to the Chronicle for authentic journalism.

I’m still making up my mind on these two candidates, but I would like to publicly express my appreciation to Mr. Elhady for making this a race. This is the first contested Ward 4 election that I can recall in my short (6 years) in Ann Arbor! Why, there were even lawn signs and – amazing!! – handbills! Most people in the ward are aware of this local election, and hopefully the turnout will be significantly greater. Mr. Elhady, even if you don’t win the seat on council, thanks for running. Only next time, don’t turn down an op. to do a face-to-face with a local reporter. From this voter’s perspective, regardless of the above stated reasons pro and con, to me it just looks bad.

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