Comments on: In the Archives: Fluffy Sparrow Heads http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Jeff Reed http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52638 Jeff Reed Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:54:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52638 Thanks for listening, Laura. I realize I’m nitpicking a tad regarding Wikipedia references in this article, but it’s frustrating to see elements of journalism devolve to blogging (as opposed to blogging being elevated to journalism, mind you). In this arena it’s acceptable to reference Wikipedia as a springboard to other more authoritative references, or as a resource for entertainment, but that’s about it.

And to answer your question, no, I didn’t read the Wiki article. Nor do I personal knowledge of the subject matter. I was certainly pulled into the article by the subject, lead, and writing, but frankly, I stopped reading when I saw Wikipedia presented as a source.

(And you weren’t snarky, No worries.)

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52585 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:07:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52585 Re #30, here is the direct link to the house sparrow data for Michigan: [link]

It does not explain causes, just shows a negative trend which indicates that the number of observations has dropped over time (1966-2006).

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52584 Laura Bien Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:47:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52584 Jim Reed: On second reading my comment sounds almost snarky. Sorry. That was not intended (tone is so tricky in text at times). As I said your point is well taken, and I will keep it in mind.

My cherished go-to source for more timeless topics is my set of 1961 Encyclopedia Britannicas. Just the writing and essay structure is a pleasure in itself. In fact if you can believe it we have two complete sets. And, though I’m not sure if this reveals a bit too much about me…one is in the bedroom.

Just in case you want to refresh your memory on Malta’s principal exports before bedtime.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52583 Laura Bien Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:15:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52583 Deaver Armstrong: Thank you for your informative and interesting reply; it’s a nuanced situation, clearly.

Checked the site you linked but after scrolling down I did not see, or overlooked, the species English or house sparrow. It is interesting to learn, however, that their numbers are declining; I wonder why.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52582 Laura Bien Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:09:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52582 George Hammond: That is fascinating bird info. I’d had no idea there were as many as a dozen different permutations of sparrows here in Washtenaw County. Thank you for kindly contacting Dea Armstrong.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52581 Laura Bien Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:07:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52581 Jeff Reed: Thank you for your comment; your point is well taken. This sparrow distribution fact is widely mentioned. The manner in which I worded it to best fit in the piece was similar to the way it was worded in Wikipedia. I cited that as a source so that readers would not think I were plagiarizing.

Wikipedia articles are all over the map as you know. Some are good and some deplorable. The sparrow article seemed reliable. Have you read it?

Many books, research papers, and other texts are as vulnerable to being poor or biased or misleading sources as are websites. It’s my job as a writer to judge whether this, or any other source, is a reliable one or not.

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By: Deaver Armstrong http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52492 Deaver Armstrong Sun, 12 Sep 2010 02:16:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52492 Some information and thoughts about House Sparrows:

Between Endangered Species laws and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act (16U.S.C. 703-712), all species except the House Sparrow, feral pigeon, European starling, and non-migratory game birds like pheasants, gray partridge, and sage grouse, are currently “protected”.

The Migratory Bird Treaty Act says in part:

“Unless and except as permitted by regulations, …it shall be unlawful at any time, by any means, or in any manner…to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, …possess, offer for sale, sell, …purchase, import…any migratory bird, any part, nest, or eggs of any such bird…”

[link]

The definition of a “migratory bird” includes those species that are not in a scientific sense, “migratory” but usually not birds that have been introduced to the US.

As George mentioned, it is important that a person who plans to “take” any species of unprotected bird be able to tell the difference between a protected species and one that is unprotected. This isn’t always as easy as it seems. If a person would have some “problem” with birds, calling a pest control company that is likely have all the proper federal permits would probably be better than harming the birds in some way. Or you could call your local city ornithologist or a birdwatcher friend for an identification confirmation.
Some would definitely argue that bird like House Sparrows or European Starlings are worth leaving alone. It is true that folks can learn a great deal about birds by observing any of the unprotected species, especially if that is all the types of birds that you have to observe.

House Sparrows are declining in numbers both in Michigan alone, the US and in Europe, overall relative to 1966 levels.
From: USGS Breeding Bird Survey data trends [link]

House Sparrows are abundant in urban areas and they do compete with native species for resources, most obviously nesting sites like Blue Bird/Tree Swallow boxes or tree cavities or Cliff Swallow nests (check out the House Sparrows that take over the Cliff Swallow nests under the east side of the large bridge at Gallup Park).

Hope this covers some of the things you were wondering about.

Deaver D. Armstrong
Natural Area Preservation
City of Ann Arbor
1831 Traver Rd.
Ann Arbor, MI 48105
734-794-6627

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By: jeff reed http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52434 jeff reed Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:24:38 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52434 Tangent for the Editors

Wikipedia is NOT an authoritative resource. Its content is not verifiably reviewed and its authors are not verifiably vetted. There is nothing truly authoritative about it. While it’s true the site contains factual information, any facts are a byproduct of chance and must be ignored for journalistic purposes.

I realize the author of this article referred to Wikipedia to support a very minor piece of information, which may ultimately be factual, but doing so detracts from the author’s credibility and that of the Chronicle. Reputation is everything and Wikipedia erodes journalistic reputations.

Unfortunately, this is the very low standard that passes for journalism these days. Chronicle: I realize your budget is low, but that’s no excuse to give reader’s any reason — however minuscule — to doubt the stories you produce.

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By: George Hammond http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52425 George Hammond Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:41:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52425 Just a reminder, we have a several local species that resemble House sparrows in general size and habits. Along with the exotic and invasive House Sparrow, we now have the House Finch (Carpodacus mexicanus), which is native to Mexico and the Southwest US, was introduced to the East Coast in the last century, and now was spread across the country. These have reddish heads. There are also about a dozen native sparrow species found in Washtenaw County. Most are habitat specialists that don’t come into town much, but several species are frequent in Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti. All of which is just to say that not all the sparrows you seen in town are House Sparrows.

Dea Armstrong is the ornithologist who works for the City’s Natural Area Preservation unit. I’ve sent her a message inviting her to take a look.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/09/08/in-the-archives-fluffy-sparrow-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-52401 Laura Bien Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:05:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=49818#comment-52401 Jim Rees: A whole cloud of sparrows was clustered among our front yard raised beds the other day, feasting on the various flower seeds. Open the front door and a great sound like a sail flapping in the wind went up as they flurried en masse into the nearest tree.

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