Comments on: Michigan Regional Transit Bills Unveiled http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-88112 Steve Bean Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:04:07 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-88112 Bob, can you point to a few places where it’s worked and has been in place for more than two years?

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By: Bob Cowen http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-88106 Bob Cowen Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:35:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-88106 How many millions of dollars and years of committee studies, task forces, presentations and promises will it take to learn our lesson? SMART isn’t smart. And if you thought that SMART was unresponsive, expensive and steeped in politics, wait until you see a Regional Transit Authority. A better solution is to allow entrepreneurs to offer unrestricted transportation services (shuttle, van, taxi, jitney). Social media will very quickly spread the word about who is good and who is not. Low income & seniors can be given vouchers or a BRIDGE type of card. It’s worked elsewhere and well worth a two year test. Put the brakes on a Regional Transit Authority before entwining three or four counties with their layers of politicians into an even bigger SMART type of mess. Tell Lansing and local government to unshackle the free market; you’ll be surprised at how quickly two good things happen: much better service for customers and much lower cost for taxpayers!

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87183 Vivienne Armentrout Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:02:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87183 That is reassuring, Murph.

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By: Murph http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87178 Murph Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:17:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87178 Vivienne – it would be a major concern, yes, if the RTA received state and Federal funds in the place of AATA, and had discretionary power over those funds. However, the legislation specifically states that the federal and state funds must go to local providers as if they were the direct recipients of them, rather than subrecipients. (And FTA rules would prohibit the RTA from moving formula funds due to AATA or UM riders over to SMART or DDOT.)

I think it is important the AATA retain the ability to apply directly to the State or FTA for discretionary grant opportunities, both for transparency and timeliness of these requests, but I don’t find the formula grants to be an area of concern in the legislation.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87174 Vivienne Armentrout Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:13:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87174 I find it odd that supporters are already counting on these dollars to support a commuter rail project that is essentially not funded otherwise (rail fixes aimed at Amtrak service don’t count), when the major aching need in SE Michigan is for fully networked bus service. Anyone following the sad story of SMART? And the Governor himself emphasized the Bus Rapid Transit corridors as shown in the excellent graphic with this story.

Thank you for the emphasis on the potential for the RTA to become the first recipient of federal and state formula funds, with the AATA merely a contractor. As you note elsewhere [link], the long-awaited Financial Task Force meeting for today has been cancelled (most likely in order to assimilate the state bills information). The importance of the shift of federal and state formula funding to the RTA cannot be overemphasized. AATA has been very forceful and creative in obtaining Federal money and it would be much inhibited in this if merely allocated an amount to maintain contracted service. The “UM advantage”, in which UM bus ridership is allowed to count as riders for AATA in order to increase proportionate Federal formula funding, would also likely be lost.

Quite frankly, I believe that the entire TMP process needs to be put on hold while the implications of this legislation get sorted out.

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By: State Rep. Rick Olson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87171 State Rep. Rick Olson Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:46:30 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87171 This is a very good synopsis of the proposed bill. We will be taking much testimony to fully vet the proposal. In particular, I will be looking to be sure that our Washtenaw County system is enhanced by the proposal, not harmed. I would appreciate feedback to rickolson@house.mi.gov.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87161 Rod Johnson Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:24:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87161 Larry, do you have a clearer link to Glazer’s conclusive demonstration? I have been decidedly unimpressed with the work of his that I’ve encountered, but I’m willing to hear more.

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By: Larry Krieg http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87159 Larry Krieg Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:00:00 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87159 Once again, thanks are in order to tireless Chronicle staff for quickly reducing several complicated bills to an intelligible summary.

One point to bear in mind: since any revenues derived from vehicle fees (including fuel and registration) must have 90% dedicated to roads, the effective maximum to transit is 18 cents per $1000 of vehicle value. I’m sure someone will pretty quickly estimate what that adds up to, but my guess is…not a huge windfall.

Overall, I think the legislation (as summarized here) sounds reasonable. It addresses the major weakness of Southeast Michigan: fragmentation and lack of regional cooperation. We are captives – and always have been – of geography. Lou Glazer [link] has demonstrated conclusively that economic prosperity depends on metro-regions working well, not on smaller units. Attempts to isolate ourselves from the troubles of our neighbors only leads to dysfunction in the whole region. Southeast Michigan has demonstrated that to the nation; can we now demonstrate the fruits of regional cooperation?

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By: Joel Batterman http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87158 Joel Batterman Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:48:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87158 The analysis in the last two paragraphs of this article strikes me as a little off.

First, it’s doubtful that the legislation’s proponents see Washtenaw as a tough sell on transit. Of all the counties in metro Detroit, we’ve been the most active in pursuing regional transit, like the Ann Arbor-Detroit link outlined in the proposal. It’s more likely that Washtenaw is heavily weighted on the board to bolster the new authority’s overall enthusiasm for expanded transit, since the Oakland County administration has been less than supportive in the past.

Second, given the fact that Governor Snyder is the one promoting this legislation, it’s unlikely that his (nonvoting) board representative would oppose a tax for transit. I don’t expect that Washtenaw’s representatives would, either. On the contrary, our county’s major complaint with the area’s existing regional bodies has been that they haven’t adequately funded transit: [link]

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By: Murph http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/26/michigan-regional-transit-bills-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-87157 Murph Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:41:29 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80220#comment-87157 As far as your voting math in the last paragraph, note that the Governor’s appointee is non-voting ex oficio, leaving 9 voting members. A “super-majority not to exceed 4/5″ therefore means “either 6 or 7 votes out of 9″, presumably to be determined by the Authority Board when it sets its bylaws.

End result is the same: any single County’s appointees (except Wayne+Detroit) can’t block a funding measure from the ballot, but my guess is that Washtenaw wouldn’t be the first holdout.

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