Comments on: Transitions for Ann Arbor Art Commission http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Marvin Face http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-88848 Marvin Face Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:18:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-88848 I find myself standing beneath an Ed Carpenter sculpture at this very moment at RDU. This one needs more glass, too. [Editor's note: RDU (Raleigh-Durham International Airport). Link to an art installation by Carpenter at RDU.]

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By: John C http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-88761 John C Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:56:59 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-88761 Thoughts on creating a thriving community of creative talent in Ann Arbor

Most companies that want to retain their talent make a big deal about “Promotion from Within”. It is a foundation of Talent Management. When they have a great opportunity, excellent companies work very hard to find someone within to promote, and only after an extensive inside search do they go outside. As a result they retain their talent – a key to longterm success. Very simple principle.

Let’s assume the AA Art Commission wants to do good, and do what is most beneficial to Ann Arbor. Let’s stop attacking them. They are trying. But, they also need to listen to the public – as this is public art and sponsored by public funds. What we need is a new way of supporting/promoting/developing local creative talent which will hopefully result in great public art – appreciated by the community.

I propose a simple two step process. First an open call to local artists. In Ann Arbor you could limit it to Washtenaw County, as an example. Then, if no artist comes up with an outstanding idea – open it to others beyond the area. I guarantee you two things will happen. First, we will find that we have some amazing artists in this area. Second, we will launch careers that will enable international recognition for artists from our own Ann Arbor. The result – we’ll have great public art, and begin to retain our creative talent by helping launch their careers.

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By: fridgeman http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87496 fridgeman Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:14:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87496 Wow, the AAPAC will get pilloried on the other local “news” website if word gets out that they begged an artist to *increase* the cost of the project!

I hope that the Allmendinger project will provide some positivity that will discourage the vandals who repeatedly cause the bathrooms to be closed.

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By: abc http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87373 abc Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:39:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87373 @3, There are plenty of examples of artists ‘populating’ spaces with characters. George Segal did this. [link] It can really liven up a space and people love to interact with the work.

@4, I agree with the whimsy as well. Another thought that has lots of examples, and it can be seriously effective. Claes Oldenberg’s sculptures transformed common things. As does this…

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By: Eric http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87370 Eric Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:00:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87370 I hope the art commission includes “whimsical art” as well as “serious art”. While I also want to expose my children (and myself) to more serious art, my children greatly enjoyed the “whimsical, guerrilla art” of Clarence the Troll.

As an example, it would be fun to carve a pair of trolls holding up the stadium bridge that you could see as you drive under it on State Street. Or a troll facing a wolverine. Or something like that.

–Eric

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By: Billy Dillard http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87369 Billy Dillard Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:37:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87369 Hi There, out of all the things artistic that could be done for the police department like sculptors showing the police saving someone’s life pulling a women and baby with their loyal pet out of a dangerous spot . Maybe a policeman helping a person across the street , chasing down a robber , a policeman and his k-9 watching our flag go up . How about a policeman sitting on his motorcycle from maybe 50 years ago not some glass and metal that is hanging from a ceiling that looks like something where the person is recycling scrap ! Now for the mural , why not imbossed murals . You apply lightweight cement on the columns and carve the murals and then acid stain and seal them . This is the mural at Allmendinger Park . The theme seems o k but i hope the actual mural will have alot more movement and color than what i see in the picture . I hope that is a ruff sketch .

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By: Richard Cronn http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87362 Richard Cronn Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:30:11 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87362 For people who supposedly have some level of artistic knowledge and creativity themselves, the AAPAC commissioners plans and ideas seem to me to be incredibly pedestrian and uncreative.

Hanging art on a structure does not make it beautiful. Structures can be DESIGNED to be beautiful without adding stuff to make them “art”. Without context, bridges and buildings are not appropriate backdrops for public art.

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By: abc http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/01/29/transitions-for-ann-arbor-art-commission/comment-page-1/#comment-87308 abc Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:11:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=80384#comment-87308 “John Kotarski began by saying he really liked the proposal, especially because it involves the neighborhood and because Thiefels is a local artist. It’s important to build a sustainable community of local artists, he said.”

There has been a lot of discussion about the use of local talent for this endeavor and as far as I can tell there is still an elephant in the room. I agree with the above sentiment that has been attributed to Mr. Kotarski but I would like to ask that he read through the comments here … [link] … about whether or not ‘local’ should, or could, carry any meaning.

“It’s challenging to evaluate sites by location, without a broader narrative or theme. Without that framework, he said, people might ask whether the Percent for Art program is just decorating the city.”

Another comment atributed to Mr. Kotarski that I agree with that I would intensify by substituting the word ‘impossible’ for ‘challenging’. The AAPAC is limited to “just decorating the city” because they are too late to the parties and then have to place artificial limits on any artists’ proposals.

The simpliest example to write about is the Stadium Bridge. The choices are “(1) on the East Stadium bridge itself; (2) on a fence in Rose White Park; (3) at the terminus of White Street, north of the bridge; and (4) on the stairs and underpass at South State Street.”

Note that #1 is NOT the bridge, but ON the bridge, or affixed to the bridge. Why? The bridge is already designed and under contract; or in artistic terms, its conceptutual narrative has already been written. (This was the situation in West Park and will be true for Fuller Station.)

On a simple level it is a lost opportunity to not have an artist contribute to the design of the bridge itself. A more complex thought would have been to have hired an artisically minded structural engineer like Santiago Calatrava to design the bridge as a beautiful object. (OK, so Calatrava might have blown the budget; I selected him because he is widely known. There are others).

Mr. Kotarski, if you look at Mr. Carpenter’s portfolio (artist for Radius) you will see that it contains eight bridges. None of them have art hanging on them; they themselves are the art. And they have a range of styles.

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