Comments on: Column: Gender on the Ice http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=column-gender-on-the-ice it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Colleen Ericson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88690 Colleen Ericson Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:42:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88690 Wonderful column! I’ve played with and coached both sexes and John Bacon sums it up well. I contend the two sexes have much to learn from each other.

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By: eric lipson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88660 eric lipson Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:02:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88660 Beautiful article. A complete sociology/psychology treatise encapsulated in an anecdote. Still leaves open the question: Nature or nurture?

I’m going with nature. Of course, individual gender runs along a spectrum from Extreme Male to Extreme Female, but in general, as a parent who tries to raise his kids in a gender-neutral way, it is my observation that if you give a young boy a doll he will turn it into a gun. Give a girl a toy gun and she’ll turn it into a doll. Both genders seem to move toward the center as they age (and have their own kids). There are lots of female soldiers and male child-care workers. But for me, that is where “nurture” and aging begins to manifest more strongly.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88584 Vivienne Armentrout Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:38:23 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88584 Kahneman also writes of the phenomenon of “priming”, which could translate into suggestibility. Even if you think you are being logical and rational, near-term words or events can affect conclusions. Let it just be known that I actually did buy a couscous-garbanzo salad at Whole Foods today (in my first visit to that establishment in three years). Really.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88571 Steve Bean Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:24:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88571 @3: Only a woman would think she should think more before speculating. Guys know it’s not necessary.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88565 Vivienne Armentrout Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:02:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88565 After I got over the involuntary belly laugh at the comments (it wouldn’t be as funny if you used the synonym chickpea), I started wondering if what is being discussed here is the difference between System 1 and System 2 thinking as explicated by Daniel Kahneman. I’ve been reading his Thinking Fast and Slow [link] and the math behavior described sounds like the System 2 version.

I’m not speculating that women are more System 2 than men. I haven’t given it enough thought.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88563 Steve Bean Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:14:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88563 @1: I agree. Women are more couscous. Men are more garbanzo.

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By: Lisa PT http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/17/column-gender-on-the-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-88559 Lisa PT Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:55:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81691#comment-88559 I tutored both high-level math and engineering back when I was in collage. I had almost the incidental experience in the differences between men and women. Especially:

“We had to convince the women they were better than they thought they were. We had to convince the boys they were nowhere near as good as they thought.”

The boys wanted to do most of the math in their heads instead of writing down each step. They kept making mistakes and wouldn’t believe they could make mistakes. The girls never believed they could do it, then, when they did solve the problem, thought they must have made a mistake. Most of my tutoring was convincing the boys to slow down and take their time, and convincing they girls that they had the brains to do it. I’ve actually seen this in the workplace. The male engineers tend to do things “off the top of their head” fast, quick, and wrong. Where the women are more couscous, though, and unwilling to speak up for fear of being wrong. Thankfully, as people age, the women tend to get more bold and the men more calm. Broad generalities, I know, and are all different. But such are my observations.

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