Comments on: City Council on Art, DDA: Status Quo Is OK http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93846 Vivienne Armentrout Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:28:44 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93846 CM Steve Kunselman asked the city attorney some years ago whether it would be legal to create similar funds, I think he mentioned “Percent for Homeless”. Presumably he was issued one of those secret opinions. It would be nice to know what it said.

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93805 Tom Whitaker Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:52:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93805 I think a very strong argument could be made that a Percent for Public Safety program would be just as legally defensible as the Percent for Art Program (although we will never get an official legal opinion on this or the Art program from the current administration). After all, capital projects require police and fire protection both while under construction and then for the life of the project thereafter. The City already skims an “administrative fee” off of bond issues, millages and grants, which more than covers any overhead, why not skim off a public safety fee, too?

So, if Council were to discontinue Percent for Art, which it created unilaterally, and then unilaterally create a Percent for Public Safety program, that money would ease the burden on the general fund which supports police and fire. The resulting savings could then be applied to human services.

As has been said above, it’s a question of priorities. If a public safety program is not possible for some reason, then maybe in these lean times, our millage monies ought to be going toward the purposes they were collected for, like streets, parks, solid waste, sewage, etc. instead of monumental art projects that only inspire resentment from those who are suffering from severe budget cuts made elsewhere.

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By: Gale Logan http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93794 Gale Logan Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:36:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93794 RE 14: I don’t think city council has said “our hands are tied.” They have said no funds will come out of the general fund to pay for art.

A valid argument would be that it takes funding away from the very capital projects that enable it. They should argue that it takes money (less than 1% overall) away from utilities and streets, etc., capital projects.

But instead most argue that it somehow hurts police or fire or human services funding or specifically in this case, Safe House, when in fact it does not, could not.

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By: Gale Logan http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93781 Gale Logan Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:21:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93781 Dave: Thank you for pulling up the Sept. 09 article.

Yep, $50,000 “could” have gone toward art from the general fund. But even if it did it could only be spent once. It would have paid for 1/2 a police officer for one year or perhaps it could have augmented the human services budget for one year.

The point remains that the funding that goes to art from the streets millage or the utilities could not ever have gone to Safe House. Those funds can only go toward capital projects related to the source of funds. Even if the art program were dissolved Safe House could not be a beneficiary.

On your other point, I don’t see how it would be possible for them to set up funding for human services except from the general fund.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93779 Rod Johnson Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:51:32 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93779 As usual, Dave gives a deeper and more nuanced–wiser, in fact–response than anything I’ve heard in this discussion so far. Thank you.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93778 Rod Johnson Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:48:20 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93778 Accounting practices? I can’t tell if you’re being disingenuous. Council “decreed” Percent for Art. Protesters aren’t advocating that the city should violate the law as it stands; they’re arguing the city should change its spending priorities, which might involve changing the law. This may be hard for younguns to believe, but there once was a time–aye, ’twas all of five years ago now–when no Percent for Art ordinance existed! I’m pretty sure that it’s not part of the physical fabric of reality yet.

I’m actually a supporter of using public funds for art, but this whole “our hands are tied, we can’t mix the buckets” argument is an embarrassment. The buckets are our own creation.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93777 Dave Askins Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:40:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93777 Re: [10]

From The Chronicle’s report of the Nov. 21, 2011 council meeting:

During deliberations, city staff confirmed that at least a portion of the public art allocation required from the new municipal building (aka the police/courts building) could be associated with the general fund – about $50,000 out of the $250,000. [This is for art in the interior of the building, and is separate from the outdoor fountain designed by German artist Herbert Dreiseitl.]

As part of her Ward 2 election campaign, Jane Lumm had argued that general fund dollars were connected to supporting public art at the new municipal building – an idea that had been, until Monday’s meeting, poo-pooed by some councilmembers, including mayor John Hieftje, who had said no general fund money had been used for the public art program.

Regarding the assertion that general fund monies aren’t used in the public art program — “… In fact the ordinance says so.”

Yes, it’s accurate that “the ordinance says so,” because the council revised the ordinance at at its Dec. 5, 2011 meeting, with an amendment that excludes the public art ordinance from applying to any capital projects funded out of the general fund.

So there’s isn’t a “clean narrative” available here. It’s a nuanced and complex argument and deserves better, I think, that the flip response the mayor typically gives to it. It’s a response that asks his audience to believe that those who question the city’s priorities in setting up a public art program in this way just don’t grasp the basics of how the general fund works, or perhaps are just crazy.

Here’s some observations:

(1) The city of Ann Arbor’s leaders have invested a vast amount of time, effort and energy to establish a public art program that has a funding stream that’s not subject to the same year-to-year budgetary process that general fund expenditures go through, and which need not compete for attention with other kinds of expenditures on a year-to-year basis.

(2) The city of Ann Arbor’s leaders have invested a vast amount of time, effort and energy to develop an evaluation metric for funding non-profits (which provide human services) out of the general fund that is subject each and every year to the politics of an intense budgetary process, and which must compete for attention with all the other general fund expenditures each and every budget year.

Based on (1) and (2), I don’t think it’s crazy to conclude that Ann Arbor’s leaders place a higher priority on acquiring physical pieces of art than they do on support services for poor unfortunate people. I’m not saying that this apparent priority ranking is a logical consequence of (1) and (2) that comes out when you apply modus ponens — I’m just saying it ain’t crazy.

So when the mayor sees a demonstration in front of city hall that’s critical of a piece of art — as a kind of proxy for the priority ranking reflected in (1) and (2) — I think that he would better serve the community to come up with a more respectful response than to try to educate people about the general fund, or to profess puzzlement that anybody could possibly protest art. In my view, the mayor’s response — which trades on a vague accusation of ignorance or bizarre thinking — diminishes our public discourse, which ultimately diminishes our community.

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By: Gale Logan http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93776 Gale Logan Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:37:36 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93776 I don’t think you are right about that Mr. Johnson. Council didn’t “decree” the accounting rules they have to follow. Those were determined by the state and best accounting practices. The money that goes to art comes from dedicated funds.

The key to understanding the art fund is that the art has to be part of the project. Human services can’t be part of a project, it’s not even bricks and mortar.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93775 Rod Johnson Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:22:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93775 This is the “buckets” argument that many of us feel is specious. The buckets are simply just the current system of financing, not some sort of unchangeable god-given principle. What Council decrees, council can un-decree. Some people in fact feel that the ordinance is the problem. Percent For Art could be replaced by Percent for Human Services. Protesters arguing for that may be quixotic, given the Council Party’s current disconnect, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

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By: Gale Logan http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/04/09/city-council-on-art-dda-status-quo-is-ok/comment-page-1/#comment-93767 Gale Logan Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:20:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84832#comment-93767 Mr. Goldsmith: I think you miss the point the mayor may have been trying to make, the fact that the protest was itself pointless. None of the money that goes to art can come from the general fund. So, why protest against art if the money can’t be spent on Safe House?

It has been repeated many times in the press that none of the money that goes into the art fund can be used for general fund expenses. In fact the ordinance says so.

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