Comments on: Column: A TIF with A2Y Chamber http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243397 Steve Bean Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:59:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243397 @8: I don’t think any would pass that test. I’ve communicated the unfolding stock market implications to the mayor, the city’s CFO, and the retirement board, and I’ve pointed others to theautomaticearth.com. The mayor has some big-picture awareness, primarily around energy. He just doesn’t show it beyond promoting renewables and efficiency.

FYI, Kirk Westphal, who’s a prospective council candidate for ward 2, proposed the formation of a peak oil task force a while back when we both served on the environmental commission. (Council members on the commission [Hohnke and Teall] led the “No” votes that prevailed.)

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By: Jack Eaton http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243394 Jack Eaton Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:12:43 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243394 Re (7) “I’m glad this phase (at least) will end tonight (or at least soon).”

I would be surprised if Council votes on the resolution tonight. We should expect amendments to the amendments and a request to delay consideration until everyone has time to consider the new amendments. (All of this will happen after the public hearing, so please turn out to express support of the resolution.) Translation: Let’s put this off until after the deadline for filing petitions to run for Council.

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243393 Timothy Durham Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:01:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243393 #7:
That would be my number one test- do any of these current politicians have a grasp on what’s coming when the “Ponzi Finance” (Nicole Foss’ term for it) starts to unwind in earnest?

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243376 Steve Bean Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:05:07 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243376 @6: Underneath the animosity is fear. Fortunately, it’s unwarranted.

I’m glad this phase (at least) will end tonight (or at least soon). We have broader circumstances to prepare for on the heels of the stock market downturn.

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243366 Timothy Durham Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:44:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243366 #1: Regarding, “I look forward to an equally rigorous counterpoint from someone… anyone.”
Here you go, Steve: [link]

Straight from the horse’s mouth. Or so it reads. Complete with ad hominem attacks on Kunselman. Apparently they were not satisfied that refuting Kunselman/Kailasapathy’s message was sufficient, so, attack the messenger.

Given the recently “unearthed” e-mail exchange between one councilperson and Susan Pollay, this vote will be an interesting test of the question posed by (#5).. Can personal animosity be put aside to do the right thing?

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243275 John Floyd Mon, 15 Apr 2013 03:33:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243275 The suggestion that the main reason to oppose the proposed amendments is to “get” Steve Kunselman tells us that council is still dominated by a Middle School Lunchroom mentality.

What would it take for Ann Arbor to have a council dominated by adults?

Nice work, Dave

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By: David Cahill http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243247 David Cahill Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:55:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243247 A cogent analysis, Dave. Thanks!

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By: Larry Baird http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243187 Larry Baird Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:52:03 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243187 This reminds me of another purely political position taken by the Chamber- support for moving the train station away from downtown to UM Hospital.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243181 Vivienne Armentrout Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:27:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243181 You are correct that the other taxing jurisdictions did not have the opportunity to opt out in 2003. I was on the Board of Commissioners at the time. When I heard that the DDA charter was up for renewal, I asked the then-County Administrator why this action was not on the BOC agenda for discussion. He explained to me that they had retained the original boundary and thus the County had no say in the issue.

I also consulted the County Treasurer, as I recall, and was provided the backup information for this statement. I also obtained a draft copy of the DDA charter renewal and it was stated clearly in the background material that they were keeping the original borders but considered that they could take action outside those borders. And in fact the action never appeared on the BOC agenda. I would have requested a debate about it if it had. The County had already started to lay off people and cancel programs because of the cuts in revenue-sharing, and we needed the money.

And yes, Leah Gunn was at that time serving on both the BOC and the DDA.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/14/column-a-tif-with-a2y-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-243175 Steve Bean Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:07:51 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110096#comment-243175 Thanks much, Dave. That’s quite a public service. Thorough, clear, insightful, informative, logical, and completely on target. I look forward to an equally rigorous counterpoint from someone… anyone.

One quibble: “so we’re stuck with ‘as set forth above.’” Not at all. That’s what the amendment process is for.

I agree that the amendments regarding term limits and taxing jurisdiction representation are unnecessary, and I favor the alternative remedies you suggest.

For part 2, how about examining the ins and outs of council’s inexplicable decision (unanimous, yet, right?) to waive the refund from the DDA last year. You could be very understanding again, this time regarding the lone (AFAIK) rationalization relative to avoiding throwing a wrench in the budget process for both entities. Then you could lay out how granting a grace period for the repayment until the following fiscal year (or even two more)—but still requiring it—would be the only logical decision.

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