Comments on: Public Art Commission Seeks Student Input http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=public-art-commission-seeks-student-input it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Curious http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245997 Curious Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:35:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245997 It’s troubling that the staff of the Public Art Commission continues to get bigger, but the job does not get done better. Lots of deliberation, very little public good. I hope by “students” they mean Ann Arbor Public School students, not U of M students, but from the article, it seems it could mean both.

]]>
By: bob elton http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245981 bob elton Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:24:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245981 I, too, served many years on committees and commissions. Sometimes it was worthwhile, sometimes not.

Commissions are effective, in my experience, when they can say and do things that simply cannot be ignored by the politicians. My time on the Parks Advisory Commission was, by and large, rewarding. This was many years ago, of course, and local politics were much different back then. There was still a 2 party system then, and there was still some noblesse oblige on the part of the majority when it came to appointing members of the minority.

Even my time as chair of the first public arts commission was productive, in that we installed 4 major public art pieces in the city, and did it with mostly private funding.

But I’m not ready to serve again. Partly because of the process I suffered through. The inquisition I got was about as severe as a Supreme Court appointee. And, I don’t think the political climate is right for serious public involvement in public issues.

So I’ll stay retired, write my book and build my cars.

]]>
By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245894 Steve Bean Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:05:44 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245894 @2: James, you’re better off. Serving on a commission with the belief that you have some say over how the city is run is delusional. Commissions simply don’t strike fear into the minds of politicians, and that’s what guides most politicians. (Think it’s ego, instead? Consider that long enough and see that egos operate on fear.)

The appearance that commissions sometimes decide things is just that—an appearance. Mostly their actions are predetermined, either by where the administration and staff are leading them, or by council (who have one or two reps on most commissions). If not, they’re ignored or their recommendations are sent to the black hole of the attorney’s office. Those that are adopted by council are done so because that’s what council wanted in the first place. Mostly that’s all that gets to council because the gatekeepers on the commissions ensure it.

Politicians don’t want to get elected so they can listen to commissions. They do it so they can ‘get things done’. Or at least appear to.

But then maybe the eleven years I served on city commissions during the current mayor’s terms in office are obscuring my memory of the twelve years that I served on committees and commissions under earlier mayors (and councils). Maybe. Maybe it’s just this mayor who somehow chooses appointees so adeptly that they all carry out his wishes, and that will end when he’s out of office.

I have friends on many commissions and on council. I consider the mayor a friend. I love them all. What I wrote above about politicians isn’t really accurate is it? Most people—not just politicians—operate on fear. Maybe someday we can have a commission on fear. That might be worth serving on.

I look forward to a lively discussion of this. And I look forward to being judged. And I look forward to being proven wrong. I’d much rather be free than right.

]]>
By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245880 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:13:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245880 I was driving by West Park and could see those two orange metal trees standing near the historic bandstand. I was squinting at them and trying to see them as beautiful. I heard on the TED/NPR radio hour the other day that you can change your perception of art that way.

]]>
By: James Jefferson http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245876 James Jefferson Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:44:03 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245876 The trouble with this and all city boards is that membership is only available to those who are ‘in the loop’ it doesn’t matter how qualified or eager to serve one might be, if you are not pre-approved by those in charge there is no chance that your voice will be heard. Just take a look at the citys lists of boards and committees and try to find someone who wasn’t appointed by John Heiftje. I know the mayor has the power of appointment, so he has been mayor for so long everyone serving the city in an advisory role is his pick. But it goes beyond this, I and others I know have applied for many open positions, including on this arts advisory board, and … No response at all. And when they do want to expand board size, it is with restrictions (read:already choosen) on who may serve. Frustrating for those who want to have ANY input, outside of the voting booth, as to how our city is run.

]]>
By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/04/22/public-art-commission-seeks-student-input/comment-page-1/#comment-245733 Alan Goldsmith Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:45:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=110422#comment-245733 So…we have term limits deleted from the draft (shades of the DDA), using the remaining looted 1% pool of funds for future projects, a increase to a full time city employee to coordinate the projects and a Public Arts Commission so cluelessly suggesting three additional ‘student’ members of the Board when the Council Task force has a near final proposal to present that’s taken several months. And, two new board memmbers who ‘just’ moved back to Ann Arbor and haven’t been living locally in the recent past. Plus City Council members still falsely claiming there was a written legal opinion on the legality of the orignal Per Cent program. It’s a strange day when Marsha Chamberlin, with her comments on expanding board membership, is the voice of reason. But the one per cent tax being elimated is good news.

]]>