Comments on: W. Washington btw Murray & Third http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=w-washington-btw-murray-third it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Kitty Kahn http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260772 Kitty Kahn Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:30:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260772 I’m afraid, A2Cents, that would really put my dog in jeopardy. But I’m sure you were kidding, right?

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By: a2cents http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260770 a2cents Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:19:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260770 When you think of it and if no one is approaching, abruptly extend your arm(s) outward in hopes of snagging a miscreant.

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By: Eric Boyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260736 Eric Boyd Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:05:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260736 He is legally entitled to be on the sidewalk.

As a pedestrian, yes, you had the right of way. Yes, he should have used a bell when overtaking, slowed way, way down, and called out “on your left” as he passed. Yes, a bike rider who disobeys the laws ought to receive a ticket. (Although, like drivers, cyclists only receive tickets in a small fraction of ticketable infractions.)

However, on the off chance a cop had seen the incident, I believe a cop would quite rightly have given a 10-year-old a lecture and left it at that. He’s still a kid and he did apologize. Kids still frequently make mistakes at that age, no matter how well parented. There’s a huge difference in what you can expect of a 10-year-old vs. a 15-year-old in terms of situational awareness, maturity, and cognizance of the risks their behavior to themselves and others. Given that he apologized, he probably understood after the fact that he had created a dangerous situation.

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By: Kitty Kahn http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260710 Kitty Kahn Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:29:30 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260710 Thanks everybody for the info. Now I’m wondering if a ticket would be issued to a bike rider who disobeys the rules or if they are only suggestions. If I see that kid again, I’m tempted to ask him where he lives and go have a little talk with his parents. He appeared to be around 10 or so. He was wearing a helmet. I guess he cares about his own safety.

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By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260677 Jim Rees Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:30:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260677 I believe both the State and the City require bikes to have a bell or horn, and use it when overtaking pedestrians. Pedestrians also have the right-of-way on the sidewalk.

At one time it was illegal to bike on the sidewalk downtown, but that was apparently changed some time in the 1980s.

It doesn’t help that if you buy a new bike today, it does not come with all the legally mandated equipment like bells and lights. Those cost extra.

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By: Susie http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260628 Susie Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:30:17 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260628 Kitty Kahn, the city’s guide to bicycling in Ann Arbor addresses the questions in your first comment.

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By: anna ercoli schnitzer http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260596 anna ercoli schnitzer Fri, 09 Aug 2013 08:27:21 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260596 I know anecdotally that several of the merchants along Main Street are very concerned about cyclists who come whipping by, going much too fast, on the sidewalk, often almost running into patrons going in and out of the stores.

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By: Kitty Kahn http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260569 Kitty Kahn Fri, 09 Aug 2013 01:59:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260569 As it happens, I’m watching the city council meeting and it turns out there is a state law requiring bells on bikes.

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By: Kitty Kahn http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/08/w-washington-btw-murray-third/comment-page-1/#comment-260568 Kitty Kahn Fri, 09 Aug 2013 01:55:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118273#comment-260568 The kid said he was sorry and I told him that he should have a bell on his bike or say something instead of just flying up on us. He was going very fast.

Isn’t there some kind of law against bicycles on sidewalks? If not, at least there should be a law that bicycles be required to have bells or give some kind of warning when they approach so the pedestrian can get out of the way. I know there was a big deal about skateboarders on sidewalks, but I feel bicycles are just as dangerous to pedestrians, if not more so.

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