Comments on: County Board Quickly Covers Broad Agenda http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Douglas Smith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-270877 Douglas Smith Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:43:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-270877 Andy,

So public commenters only get a thank you if you have known them for several years and you agree with them on many issues? You ignore the fact that I criticized you not for thanking Judy but for singling her out and not thanking all of the commenter equally. We all take time out of our day to try to inform the commissioners.

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By: Andy LaBarre http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269639 Andy LaBarre Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:18:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269639 Doug, I never called you name, I said your comment was asinine. I think it was. The reason is I feel it crossed the bounds of the rational comments that tend to make The Chronicle an enjoyable read for both content and reaction. Specifically by questioning my opinion on our country’s racial outlook based on the mere fact I thanked someone whom I have known for several years (and do agree with on many issues) for coming and commenting.

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By: Barbara Levin Bergman http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269630 Barbara Levin Bergman Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:24:32 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269630 I have some questions and concerns regarding the treatment program proposed to be housed in the county detention facility .

First: Is this program designed primarily for young women from Washtenaw County? The article seems to indicate that young women from other counties would be housed and treated in this facility and that the program will be used to generate funds. If this is so, then I would ask if the commissioners believe that it is moral to make money on the misfortune of children who then would be treated far from their homes. Further how will the program work with these families? How will the program work to re-integrate those from other counties back into their home communities?

Second: Is the proposed treatment part of a standard and/or pre-packaged modality? Or, w ill treatment be individually tailored to the needs of each young woman?

Finally, who will supervise this program? Will it be supervised by a mental health professional whose credentials indicate experience with the treatment of adolescents?

I believe that minors should be treated in the least restrictive placement possible. I also believe that it is not the responsibility of this county to provide treatment to minors whose counties cannot or will not provide it.

Our responsibilities are to our children. Our responsibility is to care for children and not to use them for revenue generation.

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By: Douglas Smith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269578 Douglas Smith Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:02:20 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269578 Andy, when you thank only those who agree with you for coming to public comments, you are essentially endorsing their comments. Now you are resorting to calling me names.

Your knee jerk reaction to anything I say to criticize someone in the County administration is to express your disdain for my comments. How about investigating the substance of my criticism instead. I would then have more respect for you.

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By: Andy LaBarre http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269525 Andy LaBarre Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:21:57 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269525 Doug you are certainly entitled to comment, but I believe this particular comment is asinine. I’m not a fan of SYG and I appreciated Judy taking time to come and comment. My views on racism are not radical…I think it exists and we should try and eliminate it. As I wrote to someone last week, I think there is enough evidence of racial disparity in the findings of justifiable homicides in states with SYG in place that repeal makes sense. I found this study from the Urban Institute particularly useful: [link to .pdf]. As always, please feel free to criticize or disagree with me.

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269500 Alan Goldsmith Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:27:02 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269500 Not sure if ‘America’ is racist, or if Andy LaBarre thinks America is racist. But I do know, as someone who grew up in a Michigan household of hunters and was taught to shoot at a very young age (though I haven’t been near a gun in decades) I know the ‘stand your ground’ movement has a large racist element and the Michigan ‘gun rights’ movement has been taken over by tea party crazies who think it’s fine to open carry in churches and elementary schools and blow away people at will if they feel a ‘threat’. And worry about the Second Amendment and hold the President in open contempt because of the color of his skin, but always seem to forget the other nine of the Bill of Rights. So spare me the violins and outrage about Judy Bonsell-Wenzel exercising her right to free speech and your slap down responses about race.

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By: Douglas Smith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269361 Douglas Smith Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:39:00 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269361 You can watch the public comments on the stand your ground law at: [link]

When Judy Bonsell-Wenzel said the law was racist and America was racist, I thought it was inappropriate for Andy LaBarre to thank her for her comments, particluarly when he did not thank the speakers who opposed repealing the law. Does Andy really think America is racist?

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269249 Alan Goldsmith Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:14:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269249 Just a note. Having Washtenaw County campaign donations tracked by manually downloading and reviewing pdf files is so 20th century and makes the process less voter friendly. Maybe that’s the point.

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By: Mark Koroi http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269174 Mark Koroi Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:09:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269174 @Vivienne Armentrout:

“They have had attorneys representing them in in court…..”

Those attorneys may have been appointed by the liability insurance carrier of either the Gelman-controlled company or their own carrier. The attorneys may be retained and financed by the seller under a hold harmless agreement executed at the time of sale to the current owner.

Whenever a business purchases another business as an ongoing concern, it is practically always spelled out in the purchase agreement who is going to be liable for defending ongoing litigation and who will bear the ultimate burden.

The MDEQ has stringent “FR” (financial responsiblity) requirements for many types of businesses (e.g. gas stations)to protect the public in case of environmental contamination. This can usually be satisfied via liability insurance coverage or the posting of a bond.

It is my belief that insurance coverages may be available to initiate what is needed to provide effective remediation here. Very often the legal battle revolves around what constitutes reasonable and necessary remediation efforts rather than issues as to who may be liable.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/09/22/county-board-quickly-covers-broad-agenda/comment-page-1/#comment-269129 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 23 Sep 2013 01:55:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=120824#comment-269129 Re (5) I don’t know why you restructured my quote to include a different date. I based mine on a timeline provided by CARD. I assume that Pall Corporation assumed the liabilities along with the company. They have had attorneys representing them in court and technical personnel defending their remediation efforts ever since.

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