Comments on: Oct. 21, 2013 Ann Arbor Council: Final it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dave Cahill Dave Cahill Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:23:43 +0000 Something to ponder if/when we get a new city attorney: A l-o-n-g time ago I did some legal research on the applicability of general city ordinances (the historic district comes to mind) to the Sovereign Nation of the U of M. What I feebly remember is that there was no court case clearly stating that the SNUM was exempt from general city ordinances.

By: Tom Sc Tom Sc Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:49:45 +0000 I don’t think they consider themselves neighbors at all, Jim. I think they consider expansion into and domination of the city to be their manifest destiny. Us native savages can only benefit by being exposed to their wonderful and holy decisions. Extermination of our culture is a gift and you should appreciate every glowing, electric second of it.

By: Jim Rees Jim Rees Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:24:27 +0000 Is it really in the University’s best interest to flagrantly ignore local laws even if it’s technically legal for them to do so? Do they think there is no value in being good neighbors?

Didn’t this come up once before at the Stadium, something about construction and the noise ordinance?

By: Vivienne Armentrout Vivienne Armentrout Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:15:15 +0000 Re #6 and #11: The Michigan Constitution grants complete autonomy to certain institutions of higher learning. See Article VIII of the 1963 constitution:

Sec. 5. The regents of the University of Michigan and their successors in office shall constitute a body corporate known as the Regents of the University of Michigan; the trustees of Michigan State University and their successors in office shall constitute a body corporate known as the Board of Trustees of Michigan State
University; the governors of Wayne State University and their successors in office shall constitute a body corporate known as the Board of Governors of Wayne State University. Each board shall have general supervision of its institution and the control and direction of all expenditures from the institution’s funds.

I doubt that the writers envisioned the huge corporate and business enterprise that the UM has become.

By: Chuck Warpehoski Chuck Warpehoski Wed, 23 Oct 2013 03:36:55 +0000 I haven’t reviewed the footage, but regarding my early morning comments:

1. I do think we had six vote at the meeting, my hope is that we do better than that when it comes back in November.

2. I do honestly wish Mary Morgan a happy Birthday

3. I am not above shamelessly promoting the Peace All Stars Concert on November 2: [link]

C’mon, Dave, doesn’t Mary deserve a bit of rockin’ out with Dave Boutette, Jo Serrapere, and La’Ron Williams as a late birthday present?

By: Libby Hunter Libby Hunter Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:26:17 +0000 @12 The name is in quotes leading me to believe it was likely intentional.

“@ryan stanton everytime you ‘cough’ the name ‘kuntsleman’ we’ll all do shots.”

By: Dave Cahill Dave Cahill Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:39:18 +0000 Hmm. I’m not sure “kuntslemen” is supposed to be “cuntselman”. It is likelier to be a misspelling of “Kunselman”, due to inebriation at the party.

By: Ben Connor Barrie Ben Connor Barrie Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:05:15 +0000 @Jim, er… I mean, Re: [6]

As a state entity, U of M’s authority supersedes local laws and ordinances. Or at least, that’s my understanding.

By: Mark Koroi Mark Koroi Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:55:56 +0000 The KKK rally that Briere and Partridge refer to actually occurred on May 9, 1998. It was the first time rioting charges were brought in Michigan since 1967. [link to Michigan Daily article]

The City of Ann Arbor had no choice except to grant a parade permit or face a lawsuit for violating the First Amendment rights of the Klan demonstartors. 273 law enforcement officers from various jurisdictions provided security along with the Peace Team – a group of volunteers who separated the Klan demonstrators from counter-demonstrators. A man police say was mistaken for a Klansman was beaten in downtown Ann Arbor. The AAPD took photos of counter-demonstrators and eventually 35 arrest warants were issued by Brian Mackie’s office for various felony or misdemeanor charges – including incitement to riot. No Klan activists were charged.

21 of the 35 indviduals charged were eventually arraigned – almost all were defended by attorneys George Washington and Mirand Massie. All cases except one ended up in jury acquittals, trial court dismissals, or “pleas under advisement” resulting in eventual dismissals after Brian Mackie’s office obtained Michigan Court of Appeals reversals on rioting charges that had been dismissed by Judge Shelton in some cases. The only conviction was of a young man for tossing a rock at the KKK demonstrators – he received nine months of probation by Judge Shelton.

The events of May 9, 1998, including the questionable conduct of the AAPD, and the ensuing criminal prosecutions of counter-demonstrators were one of the most profound occurrences in the history of race relatons in Ann Arbor.

By: Libby Hunter Libby Hunter Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:28:59 +0000 Alan Goldsmith is right to remember not only mayoral, but council candidates who run next year. I believe those voting in favor of the McWilliams appointment were Briere, Taylor, Warpehoski, Higgins, Teall, Heiftje.

(Against: Anglin, Kailasapathy, Lumm, Petersen, Kunselman.)

As a friend said regarding McWilliams appointment: The issue is not about expletives. It’s about good judgement, being serious about how decisions affect the community, and respect.

Here’s just one of his tweets: Reading industry mags reminds me how little I value the opinion of others.