Comments on: Library Board Weighs Urban Park, Survey http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Jack Eaton http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299943 Jack Eaton Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:15:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299943 Re (11), I think comment (9) was proposing a conference center without a hotel. If the AADL included conference facilities as part of a new library, it would mean that the City would not have to subsidize the cost of building or running that conference center. One of the main points raised by opponents to the hotel and conference center was the need for City subsidies to build and operate the conference center portion of the project.

On the other hand, including expensive meeting facilities in a new library was probably a big reason the library bond issue failed to receive majority voter support in the November 2012 election. It would appear that voters do not believe that conference facilities are within the scope of what our library should do.

Conference centers are expensive and rarely pay for themselves. I have seen no market study showing a real demand for a conference center in Ann Arbor. I can think of many things we might better spend our public resources on.

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By: Donald Salberg http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299900 Donald Salberg Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:51:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299900 Re[9] When the Valiant Partners responded to the City’s RFP, it included a 150-room luxury hotel and an attached 26,000 square foot conference center. Subsequently, Chuck Skelton, a local hospitality authority and advisor to major hotel chains in SE Michigan, wrote a comprehensive and detailed evaluation from which he concluded that a conference center will not be successful. Furthermore, if the conference center was not successful then neither would the hotel (a fact (which the Valiant Partners admitted). The situation has note changed since then.

BTW, the originally planned 32,000 square foot conference center proposed by Valiant Partners was to cost $8 million to construct which they hoped would be paid for by the city.

Please read the following two Chuck Skelton interviews from 2010 at these websites:

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By: sabra briere http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299889 sabra briere Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:55:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299889 Re: #9 Ann Arbor (City) doesn’t own the library or the parcel the library is built upon. Many folks have suggested to the Library Board (an independently elected body with its own budget) that they consider this possibility. The Library Board has reasons to reject the idea – including the fact that the AAPS and the Library have an interesting arrangement regarding the ownership of that parcel.
At some point, when an idea will never be supported by the folks who make the decisions (the Library Board) it isn’t worth pursuing any further.

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By: Fuzzbollah http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299886 Fuzzbollah Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:20:30 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299886 Could Ann Arbor please consider building a new library (combined with a conference center) on top of the library lot, and a new full-blown downtown park on the space where the library now sits?

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By: Donald Salberg http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299872 Donald Salberg Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:42:07 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299872 Re[7] The AADL board wants a conference center built close to the library and wants to share space. When the Valiant Partners RFP was rejected the prospect of building a conference center disintegrated.

SO, the AADL decided to build a conference center for itself disguised as a new library building. For that purpose the AADL board decided that the new library should almost fifty percent larger than the old library, that is, 160,000 square feet to replace 110,000 square feet. Schematics for the new library were not offered to the public in order to hide the AADL board’s true intentions. Fortunately, Ann Arbor voters would not approve new construction without knowing what they would be getting.

The recent EPIC-MRA satisfaction survey is a double-edged sword for the AADL board. On the one hand, the glowing report reflects excellent management of the library. On the other hand, the sterling report does not support the need for a new library and a possible repeat bond referendum effort next year.

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By: Herb http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299813 Herb Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:33:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299813 So just like AATA a few months ago, ADL pays someone to do a survey and the results are just what they wanted to hear. Like AATA they will probably ask for a big millage increase as a result. Possibly they do not want a park because the people it would attract would not get along with those coming to the new conference center.

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By: Peter Zetlin http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299812 Peter Zetlin Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:29:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299812 I agree with Lyn Davidge and extend my thanks to Nancy Kaplan as well. Let’s hope this year’s election brings some fresh faces to the library board.

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By: Lyn Davidge http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299810 Lyn Davidge Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:51:29 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299810 Nancy Kaplan deserves thanks for her reasoned and responsible vote against the Board’s resolution opposing City Council’s resolution re: set-aside for a park on the Library Lot.

I find it disturbing that the AADL Board resolution was a last minute add-on to its March 17 agenda. This was a substantial, important resolution on a complex issue. It carried potential ramifications for the several entities that should be collaborating for the good of the entire greater Ann Arbor area. Yet, as in the normal order of Board agendas, the resolution’s existence was not revealed until moments before the call for citizen comments to the Board. This gave the few of us present no reasonable time to prepare a considered response, and gave the rest of the community no opportunity to communicate with the Board about it in the week or so between posting of the agenda and the meeting.

I’m further uncomfortable with the fact that Director Parker was already at the City Council meeting to read the AADL resolution and announce its passing. I guess this explains Ms. Leary’s abruptly calling the question. The Board needed to pass the resolution before it was likely that Ms. Parker would address Council. And it was apparently a foregone conclusion that it would pass.

Golly whiz, I’m so naïve, that I expect just a slight possibility of free, open, lively discussions of any issue by my elected officials. I expect to hear debate bringing forth multiple points of view. I expect that such discussions can result in changed opinions right there in public and even revisions to or (gasp!) the occasional defeat of motions before those elected officials. Not what I saw or heard from the AADL Board on March 17!

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299795 John Floyd Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:04:29 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299795 To finish my thought…

To follow the board’s apparent line of reasoning, it seems that their opinion is that downtown cannot have inviting places – and therefore cannot itself be an inviting place – for the foreseeable future.

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/03/22/library-board-weighs-urban-park-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-299794 John Floyd Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:56:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=132995#comment-299794 In the past, the library board’s opposition to the Library Lane park has been based at least in part on their suspicion that homeless people will use the park as a hang out. Here, the board opposes even a resolution to eventually create a park, until homeless people are eliminated, citing other down town public spaces used by those with no other place to go as the example of what will happen next door to them. Is the board suggesting that public spaces be eliminated from downtown unless/until homeless people themselves are eliminated?

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