MEMORANDUM DATE: October 16, 2008 TO: Chris Cheng Planning and Development Services 0- FROM: Alison Heatley, Senior Project Engineer Cresson Slotten, P.E., Senior Project Manager Public Services Area - Systems Planning RE: DDA - South Fifth Avenue Parking Structure for Public Project Review 319 South Fifth Avenue File No. SP08-015 Review #2 Based on our review, this petition should not be scheduled for Planning Commission action until the items noted have been addressed: 1. Sheet SPA - 2: Clearly identify and dimension existing and any proposed public rights-of-way. While we understand this is noted on the Layout Plan, this is the Overall Site Plan, and only sheet providing a full overview of South Fifth Avenue. 2. Sheet SPA-2A: A demolition plan was provided, but is incomplete. The plans do not show the demolition proposed on South Fifth Avenue. 3. SPA-3: a. Clearly identify and dimension the public right-of-way lines for South Fifth Avenue and South Division Street, similar to how it was provided for Library Lane. b. It is noted that as a dedicated public street, it is the logical extension that Library Lane would become an Act 51 liability for maintenance. As a private street, this could become a liability of the parking system and allow for greater design flexibility. c. City Code Chapter 47, Section 4:20 states that one-way driveway opening widths shall be between fifteen and twenty feet; turning radii shall be between five and fifteen feet; and maximum curb cut widths not exceed sixty feet. Two-way driveway opening widths shall be between twenty-four and thirty feet. The site plan does not meet these requirements. d. Minimum acceptable lane widths for vehicular travel and bicycle lanes shall be determined by the Traffic Engineer. e. The Public Services Standard Specifications call for public street rights-of-way to have a minimum width of sixty-six feet. The site plan does not meet this requirement. f. The Public Services Standard Specifications require minimum intersection radii of thirty feet. The site plan does not meet this requirement. 4. SPA-7: a. The Fire Marshal shall determine if fire hydrant coverage is met and adequate for the below grade parking structure. b. Public water main pipes shall not be located within a building structure as shown. The Public Services Standard Specifications requires water main be located in the ground at a typical depth of 5.5 feet and no closer than twenty feet to a building, unless otherwise approved. The site plan does not meet this requirement. c. Staff is considering options for the water main system layout, including an alternative for eliminating the full run of 12" water main in South Fifth Avenue and relocating this main in South Division and cross-lots. We look forward to meeting with the design team to come to a satisfactory solution. The following items have been acknowledged by the petitioner and/or require no further action at this time: 1. The City of Ann Arbor Geodetic Reference System (AAGRS) Coordinate Transformation Worksheet has been approved. Once the site plan is approved, the applicable CAD layer information must be submitted to Project Management Services Unit in compliance with notes 1 - 4 on the CAD Layer Legend for Digital Data Submission sheet. 2. The dimensions of the structure under South Fifth Avenue are such that it is anticipated that this structure will need to be classified as a bridge under the definition by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), which will result in a need to have the structure inspected by the City on a biennial basis. This will be researched by Public Services staff, and if confirmed, the detailed arrangements for this inspection will need to be documented for the benefit of the City and the DDA. 3. It is noted that all designs will include a minimum six feet of unobstructed, walkable area for all pedestrian sidewalks. 4. Sidewalks constructed in the public right-of-way shall meet all requirements and guidelines as set forth in the ADA Standards for Accessible Design. Detailed construction plans for new sidewalk, including both longitudinal and transverse grades, and specifically information concerning ramps, must be submitted to Project Management Services Unit for review and approval at-the construction plan stage. 5. SPA-3: A detailed review of the materials proposed for the project will be performed at the construction plan and permit stage of the project. 6. Staff has reviewed the sanitary sewer flow rates and mitigation calculations and concurs that three footing drain disconnections are required. 7. The proposed connection to the existing sanitary sewer may be made at a manhole or at a new tee cut into the sewer main with sewer repair joints, per the Public Services Standard Specifications. Whichever method is chosen, the work is to be performed by the petitioner's contractor, with the connection being permitted and inspected by the Public Services Area. 8. The city has recently revised City Code language requiring payment of improvement charges for a property's initial sanitary sewer service and water service connections. Staff is reviewing how these code requirements may apply to this development. CSS:ah (S:\Project Management\Private Development\Comments\Alison\Site Plans\DDA - South Fifth Ave Parking Structure 2.doc) C: Craig Hupy, P.E., Systems Planning Manager (Via Email) Troy Baughman, P.E., Senior Project Engineer (Via Email) Leszek Sipowski, P.E., Senior Project Manager (Via Email) Pat Cawley, P.E., P.T.O.E., Project Engineer (Via Email) Connie Pulcipher, Senior City Planner (Via Email) Beverly Selvig, Management Assistant (Via Email) Mike Bergren, Field Operations (Via Email) Denny Zink, Field Operations (Via Email) Kirk Pennington, Field Operations (Via Email) Kathleen Chamberlain, Fire Marshal (Via Email) MEMORANDUM DATE: September 12, 2008 TO: Chris Cheng Planning and Development Services FROM: Alison Heatley, Senior Project Engineer Cresson Slotten, P.E., Senior Project Manager Public Services Area - Systems Planning RE: 319 South Fifth Avenue Public Project Review File No. SP08-015 Review of Plans Dated: 8/29/2008 Based on our review, this petition should not be scheduled for Planning Commission action until the items noted have been addressed: 1. The City of Ann Arbor Geodetic Reference System (AAGRS) Coordinate Transformation Worksheet was reviewed and was found to contain errors. Additionally, the form submitted has been out-of-date for some time. Please revise and resubmit the information on the latest form, available on the Private Development webpage of the city's website at www.a2gov.org. Once the site plan is approved, the applicable CAD layer information must be submitted to Project Management Services Unit in compliance with notes 1 - 4 on the CAD Layer Legend for Digital Data Submission sheet. 2. Sheet SPA-2: a. Clearly identify existing and any proposed public rights-of-way, including dimensions. b. It appears that there may not be sufficient walkable (unobstructed) sidewalk width for the area along the west side of South Fifth Avenue, south of East Liberty Street. Please identify the walkable width in this location, as well as any other location where it is less than six feet wide. c. Dimension all proposed and existing curb cuts with driveway opening widths, turning radii and curb cut widths. These dimensions shall meet the provisions established in City Code Chapter 47, Section 4:20. d. Provide dimensions for the traffic lanes and other features as shown. e. The intended disposition of Library Lane should be clearly indicated on the site plan - - i.e., will it be a right-of-way dedicated to the city or not dedicated to the city and be maintained by the DDA as part of the parking system within the downtown area? f. If Library Lane is intended to operate as a full street, the intersections of Library Lane to South Fifth Avenue, and also on South Division Street Division, need to be designed as typical street intersections. g. The following is to be noted on the site plan and any subsequent construction plan(s): "Per Chapter 49, Section 4:58 of the City Code, 'All sidewalks are to be kept and maintained in good repair by the owner of the land adjacent to and abutting the same.' Prior to the issuance of the final Certificate of Occupancy for this site, all existing sidewalks in need of repair must be repaired in accordance with city standards." h. Sidewalks constructed in the public right-of-way shall meet all requirements and guidelines as set forth in the ADA Standards for Accessible Design. Detailed construction plans for new sidewalk, including both longitudinal and transverse grades, and specifically information concerning ramps, must be submitted to Project Management Services Unit for review and approval at the construction plan stage. Please note that many of the details concerning grades will need to be worked out during the site plan stage in order to gain grading plan approval. SPA-3: A detailed review of the materials proposed for the project will be performed at the construction plan and permit stage of the project. SPA-4: The grading plan must also reflect the limits and controls required for the work in South Fifth Avenue. SPA-7: a. A fire hydrant must be installed within 100 feet of the proposed "new fire connection" north of the existing library. b. The size of the proposed utility service leads to the underground structure in South Fifth Avenue need to be clearly called out on the site plan. c. Preliminary details regarding the placement of the proposed 12" water main on the westerly end of (i.e., within) the underground parking structure are to be included on the site plan for initial review by the city. d. Fire hydrant coverage is not fully provided for the site, specifically over the easterly portion of the site. Hydrants shall be located such that all buildings and structures will be included in a 250-foot radius drawn around each hydrant. Additionally, hydrants shall be located such that the hose lay to any external portion of a structure via an approved fire route will not exceed 400 feet, or as otherwise identified by the Fire Marshal. e. City staff has analyzed the water usage at city parking structures and determined an average flow rate of 27 gpd per space for up to 125 spaces is to be used. For parking areas over 125 spaces, a total average flow rate of 3,375 gpd is to be used. f. The proposed connection to the existing sanitary sewer may be made at a manhole or at a new tee cut into the sewer main with sewer repair joints, per the Public Services Standard Specifications. Whichever method is chosen, the work is to be performed by the petitioner's contractor, with the work being permitted and inspected by the Public Services Area, Field Operations Unit. 6. The dimensions of the structure under South Fifth Avenue are such that it is anticipated that this structure will need to be classified as a bridge under the definition by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), which will result in a need to have the structure inspected by the City on a biennial basis. This will be researched by Public Services staff, and if confirmed the detailed arrangements for this inspection will need to be documented for the benefit of the City and the DDA. 7. A demolition plan should be provided as part of the plan set to help facilitate the review and permitting of the project. 8. The city has recently revised City Code language requiring payment of improvement charges for a property's initial sanitary sewer service and water service connections. Staff is reviewing how these code requirements may apply to this development. CSS:ah (S:\Project Management\Private Development\Comments\Alison\Site Plans\Fifth Ave Underground Parking.doc) C: Troy Baughman, P.E., Senior Project Engineer (Via Email) Leszek Sipowski, P.E., Senior Project Manager (Via Email) Pat Cawley, P.E., P.T.O.E., Project Engineer (Via Email) Connie Pulcipher, Senior City Planner (Via Email) Beverly Selvig, Management Assistant (Via Email) Legend Watermains == R«w water SubTyp«, Status, InCasing ™— RiwW«ter, Encased 11 Distribution Main frf + WWer in Treatment Process -Hydrant Lead » • Abandoned Whtw Lines ¦al Distribution Main, Encased I I HydrantRadus_250R_?0080aoS Proposed 5th Avenue Underground Parking Structure Proposed Hydrant Coverage March 16, 2009 0 25 50 N i 100 150 i Feet 200 Heatley, Alison Subject: From: Sent: To: Cc: Heatley, Alison Monday, March 30, 2009 12:41 PM 'adrian iraola'; Slotten, Cresson Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; GCole@carlwalker.com; McCormick, Sue RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Yes, this is fine. The DDA's conference room will work. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:35 PM To: Heatley, Alison; Slotten, Cresson Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; GCole@carlwalker.com; McCormick, Sue Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Alison, We can meet at 2:00 p.m. tomorrow. I reserved the DDA's conference room just in case, but we can come to City Hall. Your choice. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:19 PM To: 'Heatley, Alison'; Slotten, Cresson Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; GCole@carlwalker.com; McCormick, Sue Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Alison, I will confirm our available times Monday morning. So far it seems that our first choice will be Tuesday afternoon. Thank you ! Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:58 AM To: Slotten, Cresson; adrian iraola Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; GCole@carlwalker.com; McCormick, Sue Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Adrian, below are days and times for next week that we could be available to meet with your team. Please let me know as soon as possible which works best so that I can block the time off on staff's calendars. Thanks. Tuesday afternoon Wednesday morning Thursday 11 -12 l -----Original Message— From: Slotten, Cresson Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:15 PM To: 'adrian iraola' Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Heatley, Alison; GCole@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Thanks Adrian, we'll look for the submittal. Alison is checking calendars to find a time(s) that the city staff is available for us to all sit down and try to find a solution that addresses the city's hydrant coverage requirements for the site, since we are not able to waive the requirements for the initial project (the underground structure) let alone the potential future site expansion with a building on top of the structure. Cresson. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:55 PM To: Slotten, Cresson Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Heatley, Alison; GCole@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Cresson, I will be delivering to you, today, three (3) copies of the attached PDF schematic drawing, and three (3) copies a sketch, showing a cross-section along the North P.L. of the garage. We hope that the schematic water main drawing addresses the hydrant coverage requirements. We reviewed construction details of the parking garage, and thus we believe a water main can be installed and service a hydrant along the North property line, as shown. We believe the FDC can be about 75' to 100' away from the proposed north hydrant. In addition, we can install a second water source along S. Fifth Ave., if needed, or we can relocate the Siamese connection to Division St., well within the allowed distance to the FDC. The cross-section sketch of the alley along the north property line shows "ground" dimensions as 11'-1". We can place the water main anywhere in that space as you deem best, the curb can be mountable curb also and there would be a 20' minimum clear space for access to the hydrant. We are proposing the diameter as 6", of the water main, along this area, but we can increase the size if required. We look forward to meeting with you to discuss this. Regards Adrian Iraola, Project Manager ai@wengco.com Washtenaw Engineering Co., P.O. Box 1128 3250 W. Liberty Rd., Ann Arbor, Ml, 48106 Phone 734-761-8800 Fax 734-761-9530 Cellular 734-649-0415 2 -----Original Message— From: adrian iraola Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:24 AM To: 'Slotten, Cresson'; Heatley, Alison Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Cresson, Thank you for your prompt response. After detailed consideration we have presented to the City the only option currently available to us, to provide hydrant coverage, which is a dry water main in the structure. This is a "distance land lock" site with unique features and challenges. If the City's opinion is that the additional hydrant is a requirement that can't be waved, then the DDA must pursue procurement of an easement elsewhere. Unfortunately, we won't be able to propose any other feasible options, until we have met with other property owners to request easement(s). We will keep you informed. We will approach again the library, this time with urgency, and other property owners. As you know, this endeavor will be time consuming, and of course we will start immediately. There will be Boards to address, committees to meet with, and legal descriptions and maintenance issues involved in the procurement/granting of any easements if we are fortunate enough to get those. We ask that you let us know if, -and we are hopeful that you will-, entertain a waver on the hydrant coverage/distance, or accept the dry-hydrant as initially proposed. Your assistance is well appreciated. Regards Adrian Iraola, Project Manager ai@wengco.com Washtenaw Engineering Co., P.O. Box 1128 3250 W. Liberty Rd., Ann Arbor, Ml, 48106 Phone 734-761-8800 Fax 734-761-9530 Cellular 734-649-0415 —Original Message----- From: Slotten, Cresson [mailto:CSIotten@a2gov.org] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM To: adrian iraola; Heatley, Alison Cc: Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage 3 Adrian, I've asked Alison to set up a meeting to discuss this item, so she will be contacting you for available times for the design team. In order to make the meeting time as efficient as possible, we ask that the team come to the meeting with the options you see viable to address the need for providing city standard fire hydrant coverage for the center of the site - - i.e., a hydrant connected to a city water main in an easement if located outside the public right-of-way, with no portion of the system located within any part of the structure. Cresson. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Heatley, Alison; Pollay, Susan Cc: Slotten, Cresson; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Alison, Thank you for looking into this and trying to helping us locate the hydrant. We appreciate the suggested location. However, it has two great difficulties; One, it requires obtaining a permanent easement from First Martin Corporation, which owns the land. Respectfully, I don't think I need say more. On the other hand, If there is a liaison/contact at the City that could help us contact someone at First Martin, and is confident that they will entertain this easement as proposed, please let us know. We would very much appreciate the information. Two; Even if we were to obtain such easement, we don't see how the hydrant can be placed without interference with the alley at the surface garage. This is a problem we would have to address, yet it presents an unknown difficult situation. Alison, we have been requesting a meeting with the parties involved. We have said in the past that we are available to meet with you on short notice. Please keep that in mind so that we can resolve this. Based on the above information, we will meet today with our engineers to discuss our options then present them to you. Regards Adrian Iraola, Project Manager ai@wengco.com Washtenaw Engineering Co., P.O. Box 1128 3250 W. Liberty Rd., Ann Arbor, Ml, 48106 Phone 734-761-8800 Fax 734-761-9530 Cellular 734-649-0415 4 -----Original Message— From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:15 PM To: adrian iraola; Pollay, Susan Cc: Slotten, Cresson; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: FW: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Susan and Adrian, Cress, Craig and I have met again with Kathleen to discuss the fire hydrant coverage needs for the DDA's South Fifth Avenue site. The consensus is that the hydrant needs can be met with a hydrant placed as shown, or as near to shown, on the attached drawing. While this would require an easement from the property owner, the upside/selling point for the property owner would be that the City would agree to take over the maintenance on this existing main, including future maintenance of the hydrant. While this location and the access are not ideal, we believe it will achieve the life safety goals. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:00 PM To: Heatley, Alison Cc: Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Pirooz, Homayoon Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Good Morning Alison, Thank you for reviewing the plans and responding to us. Attached with this email are two (2) Structural Drawings. They show columns that are being designed to support the additional weight of the potential building. One drawing shows, in red, the possible footprint of the potential building. Please note that the requested structural data submitted herewith, per your email, has yet to be approved by the Building Official during building plan review of construction plans. We did not show the FDC on the schematic water main plan submitted to you on 2-25. The FDC was shown on the approved site plan, Sheet SPA-7. A Siamese connection was proposed to service the garage, and it is shown at the northwest corner of the site on the referenced drawing. It is our intent to have the FDC it that general vicinity. As we are in the Design Detail phase of this project, there are no mechanical construction drawings, which would show the specific location of the FDC. Therefore, we don't really know exactly, where the FDC will be located. All we can do at this point is to show the approximate location, as it was done on the Site Plan drawing. Do you want us to show the FDC again on the schematic water main plan and resubmit it ? The garage will have two (2) sources of water one (1) from Division, and one (1) from South Fifth Ave. We can, if required by the City, provide two (2). FDCs for the parking garage, from two (2) different water sources. Please also keep in mind that the parking garage will have a fire sprinkler system at every level. We need your assistance with the Hydrant coverage issue. We had a 5 meeting with the Public Library representatives, and they did not agree to grant the City an easement for the hydrant service. We referenced a hydrant service connection along their east property line, and we expressed the importance of this requirement. Without that location as an option for a Hydrant service we need your help. Please let us know what other location we could propose, within the City property, which would be acceptable to the City to cover this garage, other than what we have explored and proposed. *lt is urgent that we resolve this requirement, as the water main work needs to be completed prior to other City street resurfacing and other projects. We look forward to your suggestions and assistance. Thank you ! Adrian Iraola, Project Manager ai@wengco.com Washtenaw Engineering Co., P.O. Box 1128 3250 W. Liberty Rd., Ann Arbor, Ml, 48106 Phone 734-761-8800 Fax 734-761-9530 Cellular 734-649-0415 -----Original Message— From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:46 AM To: adrian iraola Cc: Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Adrian, we reviewed your plans with Kathleen Chamberlain, Craig & Cresson and have a few questions. The FDC was not shown on the plans provided. Can you confirm and show on the plans the location of the FDC for the parking structure? Please confirm and show on the plans the columns that are being designed to support the extra weight/height of the potential building that could be built on top of the parking structure at some point in the future. Hydrant coverage remains needed for the center of the site, however as previously discussed, this lead cannot be constructed through the building. You may email a PDF of revised drawing(s) if you prefer, rather than producing prints at this point. Thanks. .....Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:51 AM To: adrian iraola; Heatley, Alison Cc: Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pirooz, Homayoon; Pollay, 6 Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Good Morning Alison, Can you please give us un update on the review of the plans ? Adrian -----Original Message— From: adrian iraola Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:46 PM To: 'Heatley, Alison' Cc: Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; 'HPirooz@a2gov.org'; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Alison, Four (4) sets of this e-mail's attachments are being delivered to City Hall this afternoon. They are; a letter of transmittal; schematic water main plan; and Plumbing Services Load Estimates for a four (4), ten story, and a 20 story building. We have made conservative, yet realistic, assumptions regarding the potential development at the site. The attached letter of transmittal describes schematically changes to water mains in the vicinity of the proposed underground garage. Please let me know at your earliest convenience when we can meet to discuss this project. Thank you in advance for your review. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:27 PM To: adrian iraola; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Robert J. Wanty; Pollay, Susan Cc: Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Adrian, please provide answers to our clarification questions and a plan revision at your earliest opportunity. We can then proceed with schedule a meeting as needed. .....Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:22 PM To: Heatley, Alison; Chamberlain, Kathleen; Hupy, Craig; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Robert J. Wanty; Pollay, Susan Cc: Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pirooz, Homayoon Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage 7 Hello, Our engineers will be available to present water main and FDC information on Thursday afternoon February 26th, all day Friday the 27th , or anytime Monday, March the 2nd. Please let me know if any of those times work for you to meet at the DDA offices, if not, please let me know what dates you are available. Thank you I Adrian -----Original Message— From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:45 PM To: adrian iraola; Chamberlain, Kathleen Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage I am not aware of a meeting next week either. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:42 PM To: Chamberlain, Kathleen; Heatley, Alison Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Kathleen, Please be assured that we too, are mindful of the Fire Department concerns which an expansion would bring. Our intent is to provide fire protection and coverage for the garage as required, but there will be limits as to what the DDA can construct in anticipation of a building that may never be a built on top of the parking garage. Your email mentions a meeting next week. We have not heard about it yet, but are most interested in attending. We hope that with your help we can find a way to build with flexibility for the next project, without building its infrastructure. Your assistance is very much appreciated. Adrian -----Original Message— From: Chamberlain, Kathleen [mailto:KChamberlain@a2gov.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:57 AM To: adrian iraola; Heatley, Alison Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Thank you, Alison, for your clarification, since the "vision" that was presented to us was that of above ground expansion to the site being a desirable future addition to this location. 8 On behalf of Fire concerns, with this expansion in mind, we need to be confident that we don't approve something today that would logistically or financially restrict or prohibit a future vision for positive development in this area, while maintaining appropriate life and property protection. I look forward to meeting with everyone next week. In the meantime, if anyone has concerns that I should be aware of, please send them via email. I will be at a seminar M-W but will be receiving emails regularly. Kathleen Chamberlain, Fire Marshal Ann Arbor Fire Department (734) 794-6962 Office (734) 368-2252 Cell -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:15 PM To: Heatley, Alison Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Chamberlain, Kathleen Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Alison, I will have to consult with our engineers evaluate the options and thus better answer your questions. I can anticipate that the plans will make reasonable provisions for construction of fire suppression. But there will be limits as you mentioned. Thank you for the clarification. Adrian -----Original Message— From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:56 PM To: adrian iraola Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com; Chamberlain, Kathleen Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Adrian, my questions retain to the future envisioned building to be constructed on top of the proposed parking structure. Since the parking structure design must accommodate a future building, we need to know what the design is for - a three story building, a ten story building, etc. The FDC question also pertains to the new building. Fire services and the supporting hydrant cannot both be located off of the same dead-end main, for example. So perhaps the FDC locations are limited based on your proposal. .....Original Message— 9 From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:49 PM To: Heatley, Alison Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carIwalker.com; Pirooz, Homayoon; Chamberlain, Kathleen Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Hello Alison, Thank you for getting back to us and for the feedback provided, it is very helpful. I initially read your questions as applicable to approved site plan for the Underground Parking Garage and Street Improvements. Then, I re-read them as if you were making reference to a "future building on top of the garage". I am not certain if you meant one or the other, so I tried to answer both ways. The current design of the underground garage is planned with structural provisions for vertical growth, should there ever be a proposal for a new building there. What we know now is that there are no current plans for anything to be built on top of the garage. Nobody knows yet what, if anything, will if ever be built there, nor do we know how many floors will such building have. Any FDCs for such building will have to be designed, approved and built when such building is approved by the City. If your questions refer to the "future building on top of the garage", the statements above apply. If on the other hand you are referring to the approved underground garage site plan, my answers are below : -What is envisioned for the building footprint on the site, as well as potential number of floors? A.- Three (3) stories underground below Fifth Ave. and four (4) stories under the current parking lot, except for the panhandle easterly of "Library Lane", which will have three (3) stories. -Where will the new building take its water services from (both domestic and fire suppression)? A.- The Underground Garage will take its water services from the proposed 12" Water Main, which will be extended southerly from Liberty St. to the northern boundary of the parking garage. If there is ever a building there, the same 12" water main could be the source for water services. But we don't know this for a fact. The best source for water service will have to be determined during the site plan approval of the new building. -Will the new building's FDC location be limited based on your design? A - No. As further clarification, the underground parking garage will have dry stand-pipes al each and every level. We will, if required by the FD, provide FDCs at Fifth Ave.and at Division, and all the floors will have fire sprinklers. Again, thank you for your feedback and we look forward to meeting with you soon. Adrian Original Message 10 From: Heatley, Alison [mailto:AHeatley@a2gov.org] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:17 AM To: adrian iraola; Chamberlain, Kathleen Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty Subject: RE: DDA - South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage Adrian, we have a few questions for you in order for us to finalize our feedback. What is envisioned for the building footprint on the site, as well as potential number of floors? Where will the new building take its water services from (both domestic and fire suppression)? Will the new building's FDC location be limited based on your design? Additional feedback: The water main in S. Division shall be 12" for the entire block (E. Liberty to E. William). Hydrants located on the existing 6" shall be relocated to the new 12" main. Hydrants not meeting current spec shall be replaced with new hydrants. Valves shall be placed to provide hydrant separation as necessary. Water main located in within a substandard easement shall be encased. -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:09 AM To: Chamberlain, Kathleen; Heatley, Alison Cc: Hupy, Craig; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty Subject: RE: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Hello Kathleen and Alison, Please let me know, at your earliest opportunity, when we can meet and discuss the issues you are making reference to. It will also be helpful if we determine who will be making the decision as to what will be acceptable to the City, then have all the parties involved at the meeting. Thank you in advance for your help with this project. Adrian Iraola, Project Manager ai@wengco.com Washtenaw Engineering Co., P.O. Box 1128 3250 W. Liberty Rd., Ann Arbor, Ml, 48106 Phone 734-761-8800 Fax 734-761-9530 Cellular 734-649-0415 .....Original Message----- From: Chamberlain, Kathleen [mailto:KChamberlain@a2gov.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:03 AM To: adrian iraola n Cc: Hupy, Craig; Heatley, Alison; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty Subject: RE: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Adrian, Craig, Cresson, Alison, and I had an opportunity to meet this morning regarding this project. There are some issues that we need to look into and clarify. Alison will coordinate the information and schedule a meeting with you. Thank you! Kathleen Chamberlain, Fire Marshal Ann Arbor Fire Department 111 N. Fifth Ave. Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104 (734) 794-6962 -----Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:03 PM To: Chamberlain, Kathleen Cc: Hupy, Craig; Heatley, Alison; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson; Pollay, Susan; Robert J. Wanty Subject: RE: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Hello Kathleen, We wish to do what you will determine to be best acceptable solution. We would like to meet with you at your earliest opportunity. The proposed water main plan recently submitted to Craig Hupy will have to be amended to accommodate the hydrant(s) installation. Thank you for your email. Although it is disappointing to hear that we need to revisit this issue, we look forward to meeting and working with you to resolve this matter. Craig, We will really appreciate if you can join us at this meeting, once a date and time are determined. Regards Adrian Iraola, Project Manager -----Original Message----- From: Chamberlain, Kathleen [mailto:KChamberlain@a2gov.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:51 PM To: adrian iraola Cc: Hupy, Craig; Heatley, Alison; Warsinski, Douglas; Slotten, Cresson Subject: RE: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Adrian, Thank you for your communication and correspondence. There is no question which requirement takes precedence. You will be expected to meet the 250 foot hydrant radius requirement. Any requested deviation from this would have to be submitted to the Fire Marshal and 12 City Engineering for review and assessment. You would be expected to provide an equal or better solution. The Ann Arbor Fire Department is bound to uphold the adopted fire code, IFC 2003 , and the City of Ann Arbor Standard Specifications. When there is a difference between the two, we make a determination to enforce the item that provides the highest degree of protection to life and property. In the particular instance of hydrant radii, the Standards also take into account Ann Arbor's unique City Service provisions in maintaining this safety priority, something that is not a practicality for the IFC to tailor to each individual entity when they write their codes. In speaking with Inspector Warsinski today, he recalled that you informed him that Planning said the additional hydrants were not needed and that he explained to you that he would have to check with the Fire Marshal regarding the radii determination. I cannot explain the delay in doing so, but will request the inspectors to address issues in a timely manner. I regret that there was some uncertainty regarding which requirement to enforce that may have created some confusion and delay to your office. As I explained on the phone this morning, the inspectors have only begun to review projects and are not familiar with all the issues that may arise during the process. I apologize on behalf of the Fire Prevention Division. If you have any further questions or concerns, do not hesitate to call me. Kathleen Chamberlain, Fire Marshal -----Original Message— From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:56 AM To: Chamberlain, Kathleen Subject: FW: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Per your request Adrian Iraola, Project Manager -----Original Message— From: Warsinski, Douglas [mailto:DWarsinski@a2gov.org] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:53 AM To: adrian iraola; Pollay, Susan Cc: Robert J. Wanty; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: RE: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Adrian, Let me clarify. The proposed hydrant location meets the requirements of the International Fire Code, 2003 edition but does not meet the radii of the City of Ann Arbor Standards and Specifications. I do not make the choice of which takes precedence but I will research that particular question and get back with you on it. Douglas Warsinski 13 Fire Inspector City of Ann Arbor Fire Department 111 N. Fifth Ave. Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104 PH (734) 794-6961 ext. 49608 Fax (734) 994-8814 email: dwarsinski@a2gov.org .....Original Message----- From: adrian iraola [mailto:ai@wengco.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:29 AM To: Pollay, Susan Cc: Robert J. Wanty; Warsinski, Douglas; MOrtlieb@carlwalker.com Subject: South Fifth Ave. Underground Garage. Good Morning, We are pleased to tell you that met yesterday with Fire Inspector Doug Warsinski of the City of Ann Arbor Fire Dept. We met to discuss fire hydrant coverage for the proposed South Fifth Ave. Underground Parking Garage. The purpose of the meeting was to seek his interpretation of a "gap" in fire hydrant coverage for the foot print of the proposed garage, and potential future buildings in this location, north of Library Lane. Bob Wanty and I explained the project, the garage functional circulation and the possible location of a fire hydrant, which would close the "gap" in the 250' radii coverage, as identified by the City's Project Management. Inspector Warsinski's interpretation of the Fire Code is that this additional fire hydrant along Library Lane is not needed. He will confirm this and will send us an email with copy to Craig Hupy at the City. We can anticipate a formal response from the Fire Department by mid January confirming deletion of this hydrant. Other points we discussed for informational purposes only were; the service alley not needing fire truck access, as Fifth Ave. meets this requirement. We also discussed the underground floors of the garage being fire sprinkled, location of fire pump, and potential benefit for installation of a capped riser for future buildings. We also discussed the proposed new 12" Water Main along Division St. from William to Liberty. Regards Adrian Iraola, Project Manager No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.30/2026 - Release Date: 3/27/2009 7:13 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.30/2026 - Release Date: 3/27/2009 7:13 AM 14 h1-i* ft t 3L , v. j