Comments on: Local Groups Scramble After IAS Eviction http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Online Tech http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12734 Online Tech Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:47:03 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-12734 Online Tech Continues to Support Nonprofits

Contrary to IAS claims, Online Tech has been involved in the community for years giving back to nonprofits in a number of ways. We recently reconfirmed our commitment to provide Nonprofit Enterprise at Work with thousands of dollars a month in free service.

Check out how NEW is helping Nonprofits deploy thier IT infrastructure with help from Online Tech at link to Online Tech

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-7159 Edward Vielmetti Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:12:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-7159 David Nacht will be addressing city council tonight. I’ve asked several city council members to ask him to address this issue.

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-6849 Edward Vielmetti Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:20:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-6849 “AATA IT staff have been working to migrate AATA internet services to a shared infrastructure with the City of Ann Arbor and Washtenaw County governments. Due to the complicated nature of this process, several services remain offline and others could be temporarily disrupted. Click here for the latest information on service outages. We apologize for the inconvenience created by the outages and thank you for your continuing patience. ”

We’re at 6 weeks now and counting.

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By: peter honeyman http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-3097 peter honeyman Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:08:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-3097 i’m wondering if IAS withheld rent by putting it in escrow … or in a mattress … or what.

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By: IAS http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2932 IAS Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:41:11 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2932 There was an earlier question about the datacenter contents & mold. Our datacenter was in the basement of the Brewery building which is a separate structure than our 5000 sq/ft office area (part of one of the foundry expansions). It appears that the servers/racks were uncontaminated although in the affidavit (see web link) the expert mentions there was evidence of something going on in the basement (there’s water continually seeping through the walls in the alcoves).

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By: IAS http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2930 IAS Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:15:02 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2930 We were in a years long legal battle to get our space properly maintained (not the first mind you), and its not just little stuff, we’re talking ongoing indoor rain throughout, often no heat or no a/c for extended periods of time & destroyed (which we replaced) 2 yr old server room A/C system due to complete lack of maintenance (no cleaning or anything).

The other BIG reason we withheld rent because we were significantly overcharged for basement space the landlord said he’d lease to us & make ready but then never did anything, but CONTINUED to overcharge us for it for 3 years @ around $50k total. When we approached him about this he admitted “yeah, we’re probably being overcharged for the basement” (since he wasn’t making the other 50% space available) and would “provide us a credit” but when we asked for it we were denied anything and he CONTINUED to charge us.

Starting Nov 07 & on it was especially bad inside with no quarterly leak repairs being done at all. The real estate market was tough so it was about how much he could get away with and nothing else. If we were in any other office situation and we would have just left outright years ago but we had to fight as we were tied to and had significant investment in the facility for our datacenter (over $100k of generator, electrical, security, etc) that we put in new in 05.

This past year it became evident the landlord was going to continue to operate our area with increasingly smaller amounts of resources & maintenance. When we were trying to find a way to consolidate space or relocate we moved some office supplies and discovered significant black stains behind the boxes on the wall. We immediately contacted a local testing firm to see what it was & the data & resulting affidavit are posted & available at http://ias.net/brewery/ .

We were “late” with rent because we were WITHHOLDING it as we could think of no other way to get our space maintained. We had “simple” needs like not being significantly overcharged for our lease & having our regular office space maintained. The legal process for landlord-tenant claims heavily favors the incumbent landlord. The burden of proof, massive expense of litigation AND escrow (having to pay rent for a space not at all worthy of occupancy) all the while having to ALSO continue to put up with unmaintained space all falls on the tenant.

Coincidence or not, some people got very sick in this area and we could never figure out what was going on or made any connection to anything.

In Oct 07 we sent one of our frequent “here’s where all the leaks are this month” e-mails and one of our staff noticed that not only was the paint continuing to fall off in this one increasingly worsening area but there appeared to be some stains where the paint was cracking. In a “shock tactic” to get the landlord to pay attention to our pleas to get this chronic leak fixed we called it “mold” but really had no idea (we didn’t discover the big black area behind the boxes until late Nov 08). Guess what the response was? NOTHING! He didn’t care that we said mold but conveniently recalled that in the court we previously “discovered mold” and did nothing. For over a year HE KNEW and did NOTHING!

Its the OWNERS responsibility to maintain their building & make it a safe/habitable environment for tenants.

I’d like to go on record that we believe the counsel for the landlord is an excellent and very clever lawyer.

Oh and don’t you believe that OTC are saints for offering to assist now as if they were they would have been aggressively supporting the non-profit community with in-kind services & development like we have for OVER 10 YEARS. They just want the business.

With regards to previous litigation battles don’t think we’ve forgotten when our former investor breached his fiduciary duties & BoAA called our loan a few days before 9/11 and THEN offered to arrange that OTC (a client of BoAA) could be provided an expanded credit line to purchase our hosting services division at “pennies on the dollar”. Saints indeed.

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2871 Edward Vielmetti Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:43:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2871 via the Great Lakes IT Report:

Report

According to the release, “The admittedly sudden move by IAS was precipitated by years of neglect in the building in which IAS leased space, which led to the growth of black mold. While making arrangements for an orderly migration to a new facility, it was called to our attention that the problem was much more severe than originally thought, and that the health of our staff could be at risk. We therefore made the determination to vacate immediately and relocate to our new facility, a feat that was accomplished in, literally, 24 hours. The process required us to abandon much of our office furniture and fixtures that, having been exposed to the mold, could not be remediated to the degree to make them useable. In the process of the sudden move, we did experience disruption to the services we provide to our valued clients. For that we sincerely apologize. “

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By: Tim Ulrich http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2790 Tim Ulrich Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:44:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2790 My first hosting provider had a bunch of racks in his basement. Probably had mold, no doubt had mice. No one every worried about an outage. If it happened, it happened. Can’t take the risk anymore. Lots of these places are being run like someone’s basement. We just moved into Liberty Center in Royal Oak because the place we were in had water leaks. This place is new and tight. Lots of new toys and two of the biggest generators you’ve ever seen.

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By: Chris Michaels http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2777 Chris Michaels Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:53:05 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2777 You sir, have a dirty mind.

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By: Harlowe Whitcomb http://annarborchronicle.com/2008/12/16/local-groups-scramble-after-ias-eviction/comment-page-1/#comment-2752 Harlowe Whitcomb Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:15:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=10026#comment-2752 Well, at least my pseudonym isn’t VULGAR. Some people…

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