Comments on: Local Food for Thought http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=local-food-for-thought it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Bear http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-10490 Bear Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:43:20 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-10490 Just to back up Kim’s point about the affordability of good food, it’s worth pointing out that much of the history of food in the past few decades in the U.S. has been a process of people finding ways to make food a little bit worse and a little bit cheaper. And, as KT points out, subsidies make some of the worst foods even cheaper. As a result, while countries like France and Germany now spend about 16% of GDP on food, we spend more like 10% of ours. (On health care, by contrast, the percentages are reversed.)

The problem is, it’s hard to make food better without making it at least a little more expensive… but increasing our food budgets by 60% isn’t an option for most of us because our other expenditures have adjusted accordingly. We need a transition back to paying farmers a fair price for good, clean, fair food, but if it’s going to work it’ll probably have to be a gradual one — perhaps even as gradual as the worsening and cheapening of food that got us to our present condition.

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By: KT http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-9517 KT Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:19:20 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-9517 changes to improve cost and access can be addressed through the farm bill. existing commodity supports promote over-production of a handful of crops, including subsidies for corn used for high-fructose corn syrup, one of the key ingredients allowing food manufacturers to produce “junk food” so cheaply.

and what about other policy approaches to make fresh, healthy foods more affordable? a “junk food tax” ? this revenue could be used to support access for low-income people. how about requiring WIC to provide a certain percent of calories in the form of local, organic produce?

recent farm bill legislation has received more attention and press than in the past (thanks in large part to michael pollan) and a public uproar will help shape that bill into something that will promote healthy, affordable, sustainably-produced foods.

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By: lisa gottlieb http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-9401 lisa gottlieb Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:09:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-9401 I work as the school social worker and yoga teacher at the Washtenaw County Children’s Youth Center–our local juvenile jail. Last spring I facilitated, planted, tended and harvested a vegetable garden in one of our interior courtyards with youth in our residential substance abuse treatment program. The food we grew was used in salads and meals through out the summer and into the fall. The youth who helped really enjoyed digging in the dirt, planting the seeds, and watching as our crops developed. The building’s supervisors and administrators are supportive and open about expanding the garden into the second interior courtyard this spring, but I can’t do it all myself, and it’s difficult to get commitments for help from other staff and folks in the community. I’m currently working with the U-M School of Social Work to find an intern for the spring and summer who loves to garden and is interested in working with incarcerated youth in a high security setting, but I’m not sure if someone will choose our site. If any of you have interest in volunteering, or know others who might, please pass the info along to them. I can be reached at lgott@wash.k12.mi.us or 734.973.4485

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By: Joan Bailey http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-9375 Joan Bailey Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:48:01 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-9375 The fairness of food is a difficult question. When I worked at Avalon Housing, I privately lamented the fact that tenants often bought and ate some of the worst food I’d ever seen. But it was what they could afford on fixed and limited incomes, and who was I to judge? Locally grown organic food was and is expensive in comparison, and when you’re talking to someone who makes even less than a local farmer (and is in no way on the verge of becoming a rock star in our culture) there is little space to argue, as TeacherPatti says.

Yet, the goal of good, fresh, accessible, quality, locally-grown food is not impossible.

Project Grow (who I volunteer for) works steadfastly and determinedly to find places for community gardens. By building partnerships throughout the community with the Parks Department, local churches and other organizations, as well as area schools (and even the airport!), the goal is to offer the opportunity to garden to anyone who wants it. Neighbors play a critical role in the creation of these spaces. None of our gardens would be possible without the voices and efforts of interested and concerned neighbors joining the chorus. It would be our greatest delight to have plots in every park and on every bit of unused lawn we could. (Just a little more horn-tooting here: We also offer classes on growing your own food – everything from the absolute basics of gardening and seed-starting to bee-keeping and hoophouse growing – to help the novice and the experienced grower alike.)

Another great example: Avalon Housing, inspired by Fritz Haeg’s Edible Estates, installed an experimental garden for tenants at one of its properties. Tentative at first, tenants quickly snapped up the available spaces and filled them with seeds and plants. Not only did the garden provide a place for tenants to interact with each other and staff, but neighbors stopped by to say hello, comment on the vegetables, and talk to the growers. Guided by a volunteer gardener, these tenants enjoyed fresh tomatoes, basil, lettuce, edible flowers, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, greens, watermelon, and more. Stories of gardening with parents and grandparents along with exclamations of wonder at what they accomplished were regular happenings. The sense of accomplishment this garden afforded these tenants and the extra bits frozen for winter use is priceless. This year Project Grow and Avalon are looking to begin a program of Supportive Gardening, too, to continue and expand this project.

Avalon also participated in a Project Grow site last year at Food Gatherer’s. This huge plot tended by one staff person and a cadre of tenants – young and old alike – raised tomatoes, peppers, herbs, greens, and a few flowers. And for a number of years Avalon has purchased shares in the Community Farm CSA, the proceeds of which are distributed to tenants who eat and preserve the food.

These are small beginnings (seeds, if you will) that lay the groundwork for the kind of change the Local Food Summit seeks to implement, and great examples to follow and expand upon.

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By: TeacherPatti http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-9124 TeacherPatti Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:17:26 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-9124 Thanks for the comments! I am like a one note little sheep that keeps bleating about this issue, but it really bothers/unnerves/irritates/pisses me off. I would almost love to have people come to my room and see what they feed our kids in DPS. Even the kids know it’s crap. I read the menu every day and there’s almost always at least one “Oh God…yuck!”
The sad fact is that our school district is so strapped for cash (at least a 10% pay cut next year, I’m told) that we can’t even get to discussing food issues. Personally, I LOVE the idea of a school garden, but what would happen to it in the summer? Our school isn’t in a horrible neighborhood, but we got a few CRIPS (charmingly misspelled CRIPES, with the E later crossed out) tagged over the summer. Our science teacher’s flower garden was ripped up, also.
I have a lot of hope for the Greening of Detroit and its community gardens. I heard somewhere that if the vacant land in Detroit was used for food, it would feed all the people. Why the heck can’t someone, somehow, someway make this happen???

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By: Jeff McCabe http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-9091 Jeff McCabe Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:56:59 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-9091 Following up on the last two posts –

I live directly in front of Eberwhite Elementary. I have had preliminary conversations with the school regarding the addition of a school food program including a large outdoor garden and a hoop house, similar to the set up at Tappan. The principal – Debi Wagner seems quite receptive to the idea.

I would be willing to raise the money (through our repastspresentandfuture.org efforts, channeled straight to Agrarian Adventure), oversee the “dirt” aspect of the program and work with Agrarian Adventure to model the program on what they have already done.

So far, I have been directed to “talk to the PTO” which has to date been a non-starter (basically that they have other projects/priorities already and that they already have a garden). I think it would take a bigger groundswell of interest from the community to let them know that this is wanted/needed.

I also envision this as not just a project funneled through the PTO but a partnership involving the school, Agrarian Adventure, and the community/neighborhood. SELMA – the Soule-Eberwhite-Liberty-Madison Affiliation is one neighborhood group forming to fill this community role and includes Eberwhite kids as well as kids at other class levels, home-schooled kids, Steiner kids, etc.

Additionally, I know that Eberwhite is seeking “green school” status. I do not know much about this process, but hear it involves energy audits, adopting an endangered species, … I would hope that real, local food, by and for students could figure into this process.

Regarding Agrarian Adventure – I think this is exactly the type of project needed to help them jump from it’s present site, into the entire school district.

If you are willing to commit energy to this process please contact me: panchobush@gmail.com and call the school: (734) 994-1934 to let them know how important this early-start, hands-on experience is for kids.

Jeff

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-8993 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:51:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-8993 I’d like to hear how Agarian Adventures is doing this year. It was a school-based program aimed at Diana’s objectives.

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By: Diana Dyer http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-8977 Diana Dyer Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:41:36 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-8977 Adding to the comments by Kris (#7), a community that is truly supportive of the production and consumption of local foods should have no deed restrictions, ordinances, or stigma associated with front yard vegetable gardening (for those of us fortunate to live in neighborhoods with our own yards vs. apartments). I’d also like to know what the process would be to remove deed restrictions within Ann Arbor neighborhoods that prohibit backyard chickens in spite of the recently passed law.

Not only would I like to see local efforts to dramatically increase the use of healthy, locally grown foods for the meals served in our schools, but there should be a vegetable garden at every school plus real kitchens where kids can learn to cook. Children do learn to eat what they grow and prepare themselves. It’s a long road to building habits that lead to health. I agree with those who have stated that knowledge is key. Indeed, knowledge is power.

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By: Kris http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-8863 Kris Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:15:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-8863 There should be garden plots at all local parks and schools and requirement for garden areas for all new high density housing. The fact that I need to drive my car to any of the current project grow gardens is simply backwards.

I agree cheap food is often not wholesome, but for people with lower incomes this is often all that is accessible. It’s this barrier that needs to be a central focus.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/01/31/local-food-for-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-8802 Vivienne Armentrout Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:00:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=12862#comment-8802 I should have said Hunt Park, with reference to new gardens planned there. West Park discussions have included mention of community gardens, but I don’t know how far they have advanced.

As I said previously, local food production must be a viable economic enterprise. This is crucial to our food security. Sometimes this means that we must pay more for locally produced food than for the same type of food (it will seldom be really the “same” food) in the supermarket. Further, it is in our self-interest (each of us) to pay enough for local food production so that we do not become dependent on that very long supply chain to the West Coast and further. It is also usually better quality. I try to buy local in almost all circumstances as far as is practical and expect to pay more than rock-bottom prices.

The question is how we can also extend the availability of this food to those with less ability to pay. As Kim says, food is very cheap in this country – but much of that cheap food is industrially processed, filled with calories from high-fructose corn syrup, for example, and made with industrially grown meat. Often this cheap food is not even wholesome (note the recent peanut food poisoning problem). (I’ll just say “Michael Pollan” and let it go at that.) It would be sad to see us become a society in which access to fresh local food is limited only to the affluent, while a lesser class is condemned to fast food and over-processed or canned items.

A partial solution is to allow people to produce as much of their own food as possible. Another is to subsidize purchase of the food.

I was comfortable with paying $12 for my lunch ticket for the summit (I was not able to attend, so donated it), and it appears that it was a very good value for the meal that was served. I didn’t mean to be critical of the organizers of the summit, who clearly made a wonderful thing happen.

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