Comments on: Huron River of Data http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=huron-river-of-data it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Russ Miller http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-27520 Russ Miller Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:46:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-27520 It’s been a crazy flow week on the Huron.

Monday 7/6 the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) issued a letter to the City on the subject of violation of Run-of-the-River (ROR) operation at Barton Dam and the lack of inflow and outflow gauging that was required by the 1982 license. A plan to address these problems is required within 120 days. FERC rejected the long held practice of maintaining pond elevation as a proxy for ROR operation, noting many days of violation in a study period of December 2007 through February 2008. The incident that prompted the 2007/8 investigation was a hydro generation shutdown like the one that occurred today, where a power grid outage forced the hydro turbine to automatically shut off, leaving no utility power to operate the dam gates.

We’d already had two days this week of severe flow fluctuations – Wednesday City and contractor personnel made programming changes and did hoist maintenance, and that afternoon flow in the river dropped to very low levels twice. Thursday there were more fluctuations coinciding with gate and hydro operations at Barton.

This morning, the short, heavy downpour on the impervious surfaces of Ann Arbor sent a huge surge down Allen Creek, but at ~10am both Barton and Argo dams were flowing normally. Shortly thereafter the Barton turbine shut off and river flow dropped to ~50cfs for about two hours. As I write this the flow at the Ann Arbor gauge is 800 cfs above the previous steady flow (~500cfs) and still rising – probably due to the controller at Barton which is trying to get rid of the excess water stored there while the output was near zero.

As the city goes forward with plans to satisfy FERC, I hope they will consider adding automatic backup power at Barton (so an operator doesn’t have to go to the dam and start the backup generator to get control of the gates – this scenario has been reported to FERC at least twice before today). Also consider overall river effects during recovery from equipment/power failures – Maybe it’s better (ecologically and for human safety) to allow the pond levels to vary if downstream flows can be maintained at more natural levels rather than try to return to the target levels so quickly.

[search the FERC elibrary for docket p-3142]

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By: Peter Washabaugh http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26426 Peter Washabaugh Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:01:44 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26426 My frustration here is there is a proposal to remove the newest dam on the river, costing millions of dollars, yet a low-cost solution that retains the pond and focuses on the canoe-portage problem is being ignored

An aspect of confusion here is that everyone keeps using the word “Dam” to describe two different features. One feature is extremely important, the other is less so.

Look at the the Sept 12, 2007 document. The DEQ official is very clear- at least to me. He states “The principal spillway and the main embankment of Argo Dam are in good condition. However, the headrace embankment is in poor condition”.

My translation: As DEQ describes, Argo Dam has two major parts. There is the main part that most everyone would consider the dam including the concrete and gates. This is the part that was completely reconstructed, or in dam-years is virtually new. It is the part that holds back the water thereby forming the embankment. It is also the part that is in good condition.

The second part is the headrace embankment. This is an appendage that has limited flow and is currently used by those that would like to paddle downstream (e.g. canoes). This is the part that needs attention. However it is also a part that is distinct from the rest of the dam system in that it can be shut off. In one sense there is a simple and low cost solution to this problem – use a weir board to close off the water in the raceway. If there is no water in the race then a failure of the headrace embankment isn’t an issue. The pond can stay. Of course keeping the water out of raceway would create a portage problem in that paddlers would have to find another way around the dam.

Any claim that the entire dam is failing distracts us from the much lower cost solutions.

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By: Michael Psarouthakis http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26418 Michael Psarouthakis Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:44:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26418 Glad the city has agreed to let MTU track the water temperature of the pond. It will be interesting to see the results and what those results are compared against.

The DEQ’s stating that the toe drains are failing is not the same as the “dam failing” statement made by Ms. Rubin in her AA News opinion piece. If the dam was actually failing I imagine the DEQ would force the city to take immediate action, instead of waiting for a plan to be presented by the city.

What I found especially interesting is that the DEQ letter also stated “and means of blocking flow into the raceway canal should be devised as soon as possible” Which is exactly in line with Joe O’Neal’s recommendation.

Did anyone notice over the past few weeks, a few canoeists and kayakers have needed rescue below Argo dam because of fast water issues, and that canoe renters were restricted to rowing only in Argo pond during some of these high water periods?

Argo pond provided a safe water venue during these high water events, something that will be lost if the dam is removed.

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By: John Charles http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26417 John Charles Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:21:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26417 Toe drains are kind of complicated, Margaret, as you note. Basically they relieve the water’s pressure on the earthen embankment of a dam and keep the dam stable. If they’re not working properly, water can seep into the embankment, erode it, and eventually tear it out.

But Margaret, if, as you say, you don’t fully understand this issue, how do you judge what statements about it are “very, very, very misleading” and “NOT TRUE”?

Here’s what the chief of the DEQ’s Water Management Section said about Argo’s toe drains five years ago. “…the toe drains along the downstream side of the raceway canal embankment are failing. …The toe drain system should be repaired immediately…” (emphasis added. Full letter here.) The same letter notes that the DEQ has been telling the city to fix the problem since 2001, and to this day that hasn’t happened.

In other words, one of the state’s top dam safety officials says the same thing Rubin does. Arguing semantics, when both sides can make a decent case for the language they use, is picayune and irrelevant to the issues at hand. Whatever you call Argo’s condition, the DEQ takes it seriously enough that it’s ordered the city to do something about it, and no matter what word you use the city still has to repair the dam or take it out.

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By: Margaret Perrett http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26377 Margaret Perrett Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:12:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26377 Can The Chronicle publish some information about what the toe drains really are–with a diagram, perhaps? I have done some research, myself–but i get this question all the time. I’m not an engineer–tho one explained it to me, but not to the point that i can answer all questions. I think if we could see what the problem/issue really is–in pseudo laymen’s terms, it would help a great deal. Comments such as Rubin’s “the dam is failing” are very, very, very misleading to the public–and simply NOT TRUE!

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By: Zollar Lee http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26254 Zollar Lee Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:43:38 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26254 On the wooden bridges/walkway at the north end of the park there are trees that have been wedged under the bridges for several years now. I don’t under stand why the city has never remove them. The result is a sand bar that has been created and water no longer flows under the bridges when the river is low and canoes are unable to pass under the bridges. I discussed this with the former Park Ranger and he saw the need to have the log jam removed and also have that area possibility dredged.Of course had the fallen trees been removed the problem would not have been created.There are several trees in the Island Park area(and other locations between Argo and Gallup Park) that have fallen into the river that could/should be removed.It has become a safety hazard for canoes

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By: dave fanslow http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26239 dave fanslow Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:27:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26239 That type a flow variability is actually very common when the river is at low summer levels. Note that there is 100 to 200 cfs variation on a multi hour basis. Similar variation around the baseline occurs at all flow levels resulting in relatively huge fluctuations in flow when the daily mean is only 150 cfs, which is normal for dry spell in summer. Its normal for the fish to be terrorized by drastic flow variation in the hottest part of the summer, and its caused by the dam control mechanism.

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By: Mike Mouradian http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26173 Mike Mouradian Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:20:29 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26173 I was one of those fishermen the day of the episode. I was fishing with a beginner so we were fishing in the small canal in Island park. We noticed that the river level was lower than before and went into the main river. While fishing there I could see the canal was drying up and fish were flopping around. I went back to the canal and picked up some of the larger smallmouth bass and took them to the main river. We continued to fish in the river but then realized that the levels were rising rapidly. So rapidly we could only make it to an island in the middle of the river. We couldn’t get out of the river from the road side of the park but were able to work our way back on the soccer field side. Very scary to be caught in the middle of the raging river. I was most concerned with the fish being caught “high and dry” by such erratic levels.

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By: johnboy http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26172 johnboy Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:18:10 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26172 King Hieftje has already made his decision. The dam goes because it is the PC thing to do. The city council children will vote as told. Hieftje is just waiting for the opportunity to blame someone else.

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By: Mike Garrison http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/06/29/huron-river-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-26162 Mike Garrison Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:48:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=23020#comment-26162 Yet another interesting and informative article from the Chronicle. Thanks for the great article!

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