Comments on: Sheriff Suggests Way to Add Deputies in Scio http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Richard http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33363 Richard Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:25:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33363 Fabian…

The idea that criminals are more brazen due to Sheriff contracts is silly and stupid.

When the economy goes bad, crime goes up and vice versa. I used to work in Detroit in teh 1990′s when unemployment was way down and crime was minimal.

Of course, if you are in the law enforcement industry you see crime every day, so you have no perspective.

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By: Fabian http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33347 Fabian Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:35:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33347 “Running rampant” was used solely to iterate my point that criminals are becoming more brazen. Criminals are not hiding their behavior anymore. They are committing their crimes under the watchful eyes of video, in daylight and in full view of crowded streets. And I honestly believe this has a direct correlation with the recent political wrangling over the jail overcrowding situation, the “Pay for Patrols” Sheriff contracts and the depleted presence of the Michigan State Police and local police.

I have been in the law enforcement field for 14 years now and I have never been more concerned with some of the behavior I have witnessed, than within the last year or so. It is of great concern in my opinion. And unfortunately I cannot rack my brain at this hour to offer opinions. But I would imagine that as an observant community member my statements are not far off. I think most people can tell that something is amiss.

Reminds me of a quote from No Country For Old Men…
“It’s the tide. The dismal tide. It is not the one thing.”
Seems appropriate doesn’t it?

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33340 Rod Johnson Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:15:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33340 Is crime really “running rampant”?

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By: jcp2 http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33332 jcp2 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:15:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33332 I look forward to having our consolidated Washtenaw protections services compete with Broward for airtime on Cops.

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By: Fred Posner http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33323 Fred Posner Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:02:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33323 Sorry… Duval.

Again, this was one example. And it wasn’t just a police consolidation. It was an entire government consolidation.

That being said… why would twice the population make a difference? If anything, that would show that it would be fine for something half the size.

The bigger issue… why do you need two large departments splitting resources and creating bottlenecks? Crime doesn’t have the imaginary lines of jurisdiction that police agencies use. A criminal doesn’t care if they cross over into Ypsi over Ann Arbor… however the Ann Arbor Police dept will.

One larger department, where the top official is an elected position, just makes sense. Many high level jobs can be phased out… you won’t need a chief of police in Ann Arbor for example.

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By: AntiRedRidersNo1 http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33316 AntiRedRidersNo1 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:21:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33316 1. Do you mean Duval County?

2. I think a comparison with an entity that isn’t twice the population of Washtenaw County would be more appropriate to answer the question.

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By: Fred Posner http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33315 Fred Posner Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:13:44 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33315 @JCP2,

Many have gone that way. In Florida, Jacksonville and Nassau County consolidated all services, including law enforcement. Some smaller cities chose to remain independent, but the county and main city became one. They renamed the sheriff’s office the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office and kept the Sheriff an elected position. Many other examples exist of just police/fire consolidation.

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By: Richard http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33313 Richard Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:40:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33313 Fred and Fabian…

I think you are correct. We have a stange and costly system of overlapping services that cost a lot. As far as I can tell the only real rationale for having multiple systems is political control.

You could use the same rationale for planning and zoning functions. The fact that every rural township has a seperate planning and zoning function is insane and costly.

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By: jcp2 http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33312 jcp2 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:38:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33312 I’ve always associated cities with city fire and protection services. Are there cities the size of Ann Arbor that do well without these departments under city jurisdiction?

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By: Fred Posner http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/11/17/sheriff-suggests-way-to-add-deputies-in-scio/comment-page-1/#comment-33308 Fred Posner Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:25:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=32180#comment-33308 Is there really a reason to have a separate Ann Arbor police department? After the initial expense of the consolidation, one centralized law enforcement dept can provide equal (if not better) coverage/response at a better value. Plus the benefits to the citizens will be having the law enforcement underneath the control of an independent, elected official. Not happy with law enforcement, you get to make your voice heard every 4 years.

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