Comments on: Northfield to Greenbelt: Keep Out http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: David G http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-37367 David G Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:54:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-37367 As one of the previous board members of Northfield Township, I helped to fight for the Greenbelt expansion into the township. Myself and the other like-minded board members even went as far as to delay and postpone any possilbe development that was presented before us in the hopes that monies would have been available in the commission’s budget to purchase the developmental rights along the areas we thought were most prone to development, but alas, the economy had a sudden downturn and we as township administrators didn’t have any funds to match as contibutions.

You see, we understood, as many of the Conservancy do, that there is no such thing as smart growth. If we want to make sure that our farm spaces are preserved, the only real way to do this is to prevent growth. Basically, if growth starts, it is self perpetuating. Once a community starts to get money from tax revenues of develpoed property, it is like a drug. They only want more and more. That’s why the group I helped to form, and which I was a part of during my 4 years on the board, decided in our infancy to stop develpoment at all costs. Why get hooked on the drug of money? Hell, we even stopped a major development from starting by getting a referendum placed on the ballot, and getting it passed. Though I can’t take all the credit for it, our position was brillant in that we convinced people that if the door is propped open, the horses will charge on through and there will be no stopping things. But hey, we did leave a little bit of a mess for the current board to try and get through. All in the plan.

So as you can tell, I am a staunch supporter of keeping the open spaces open. Living in Northfield Township has made me realize that I like things the way they are. No need for change. I’d really like to see everyone of my neighbors sell their develpomental right to the Greenbelt Commission. As a matter of fact, I really don’t care that there is not a single pharmacy in the town that I live. I can just get in my car and drive 10 or 15 minutes into Ann Arbor or Brighton. And I really am glad there is no hardware store or lumber yard in my town. It keeps the traffic down and helps me see the stars at night, since having someting like that would do nothing but pollute the night sky with lights. As a matter of fact, I’d love to see flowers planted all the way down the median of US-23 into Ann Arbor, just as a reminder of how beautiful our past has been.

And in closing, I really have disdain for the current Northfield Township Board. Not only have they succeeded in strengthing the townships finances ( A- bond ratings ), which we were never able to do, but they are actually encouraging development to occur, which I, and those of like mind , tried desperately to keep out. I hate to say it, but it may be time for me to think about moving up north, where I know open spaces will be perserved for ever.

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By: John Q. http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-37247 John Q. Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:36:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-37247 “I decided to live here rather than Ann Arbor because housing is affordable, property taxes are not outlandish, the locale is pleasant and convenient, traffic isn’t insane, I can walk or bike safely to local stores rather than drive, and we do have open space.”

All of which gets sacrificed by your bizarre desire for more sprawl growth. You claim that you are for “smart growth” but you oppose the only “smart growth” initiative that is happening in the area, which is the Greenbelt. What’s even more bizarre is that what Ann Arbor is doing, which is preserving local farms, is the one thing that would help the township protect what you claim you want to preserve. It’s completely illogical.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36878 Rod Johnson Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:50:25 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-36878 Who is “we” and what does it mean to have “A2″ “in” “your” community? I mean, I get the fact that you have an emotional reaction going, it’s just that, when you actually think about it, it’s dumb and bigoted.

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By: Mikey48 http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36869 Mikey48 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:35:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-36869 “Deb has improved our township by leaps and bounds.”
And you base this praise on what accomplishments?

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By: Deb Anderson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36854 Deb Anderson Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:10:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-36854 Rod,
How difficult is it for you to understand that we don’t want A2 in our community? Got it now? Good. That’s my ONLY point. Thank you, sir.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36276 Rod Johnson Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:38:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-36276 Honestly, that seems pretty non-responsive to the points made in #15. Is your whole program based on an emotional “we’re not Ann Arbor” reaction? Speaking from experience as an unhappy resident of the Libertarian Utopia of Scio–it’s a pretty sucky basis for a politics.

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By: Deb Anderson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-36265 Deb Anderson Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:33:52 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-36265 Keep Ann Arbor out of our township! We don’t need Ann Arbor to dictate how we run our community. The discussion is not about the green belt, it is about stepping on our autonomy as a separate community. I decided to live here rather than Ann Arbor because housing is affordable, property taxes are not outlandish, the locale is pleasant and convenient, traffic isn’t insane, I can walk or bike safely to local stores rather than drive, and we do have open space. We currently have the best township budget we’ve had in decades. We are attracting development and there will be smart growth. The blight is disappearing. There are concerned citizens, and I’m one of them, who will strongly advocate open space development and we’ll pull together to create our green belts and famrmland preservation. We do not need the paternalistic arm of Ann Arbor reaching out to tell us how to plan our community and perhaps Ann Arbor should begin concentrating on their own troubles. We aren’t laying off firefighters and police, we pass our school and library millages, we don’t have the crime, we don’t have the insane traffic, and we don’t have the heavy hand of government fining our residents over a cracked sidewalk or snow that isn’t shoveled within a few hours. We aren’t taxed to death either. We also have room to grow sanely, unlike Ann Arbor where they’ve painted themselves into a corner because they resist growing vertically.

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By: John Q. http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-35996 John Q. Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:36:03 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-35996 “Ann Arbor wants it their way — no building vertically and no building outwardly and they want to control all of their neighboring communities as well. ”

That is completely false.

First, Ann Arbor has worked with the neighboring communities to secure easements on greenbelt properties. Even those communities that do not have a dedicated greenbelt millage have cooperated with Ann Arbor because every other township except Northfield realizes that working with the city will benefit, not harm, the township’s potential for growth. Also, Ann Arbor works with willing property owners. What Ann Arbor is doing is no different than what various land conservancies in the area have also done. Would you oppose the efforts of the Legacy Land Conservancy if they were successful in securing farmland preservation easements in Northfield?

Second, Ann Arbor does not have plans and never has had plans to secure greenbelt easements over an entire township. To claim that Ann Arbor wants to “control all of their neighboring communities” is simply false.

Third, the claim that Northfield wants “smart growth” but opposes the Ann Arbor greenbelt simply shows a lack of understanding of either concept. By helping to preserve farmland in the southern portion of Northfield, Ann Arbor is helping to direct growth to the developed portions of the township. The alternative is sprawling development across the township which is not smart growth.

Fourth, I’ve heard little of what Deb has accomplished in her time as supervisor. But what you point to as a positive was the result of the previous supervisor who did support the efforts being made by Ann Arbor to help the entire area through efforts like the greenbelt initiative and the light rail line through Northfield.

For most of Northfield’s history, your belief that preventing preservation and allowing uncontrolled growth is the way to succeed has held sway. Only in the last few years was their any effort to encourage smart growth and preserve farmland. Yet despite decades of having it your way, you claim that Northfield is still a “depressed area”. Maybe you need to realize that some of the cause of Northfield’s depressed state comes from the failure to plan wisely, to encourage smart growth and to support the preservation of farmland. Instead, poorly planned growth, mismanaged township government (save for the last few years under the previous supervisor) and an unwillingness to work with neighboring communities has hurt, not helped the township. Going in your direction is a step backwards in the wrong direction for the township.

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By: Deb Anderson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-35699 Deb Anderson Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-35699 No problem, Rod. I should have put her last name there too to avoid the confusion.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2009/12/15/northfield-to-greenbelt-keep-out/comment-page-1/#comment-35672 Rod Johnson Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:43:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=33877#comment-35672 Aha, thanks. I did look before I leapt though–that was why I asked rather than accusing, and used the word “if.”

Sorry Deb–who could have anticipated there would be more than one Deb in the world? :)

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