Comments on: In the Archives: Golden Age of Oysters http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Dave http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48615 Dave Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:05:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48615 Laura, It appears to be a majolica 19th century oyster plate for serving oysters on the half shell. There are indeed pottery companies here in the US, who do still make an all vitreous china modern version of these plates. One company, the Hall China Company of East Liverpool Ohio, has produced versions since the 1920′s. They are still in business today and were just sold to Homer Laughlin China Co., makers of the famous “Fiesta” dinnerware. Hall will still run independently though.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48400 Laura Bien Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:09:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48400 p.s. I should quickly add, since likely there are readers out there who know far more about JHK than I do, that I haven’t studied the man in depth. Heroes can have feet of clay, and my viewpoint might be naive. Still, I hope I don’t eventually learn that he was involved in some stock fraud scheme or some deliberate malfeasance. That would be…deflating.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48398 Laura Bien Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:50:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48398 cmadler: I love your silly guesses. It could actually be used as a little paint palette; that would work, seems to me. To tell you the truth, as of last week I did not know what this item was. I probably would have guessed that it was a Seder plate.

It is definitely not a Seder plate. :)

Kellogg was quite a character. In truth, I have a lot of admiration for him. Some of his ideas were a tad wacky, but I get the strong impression that he was acting at all times according to his beliefs–whether they were strictly medically correct by modern standards or not. Likely he made money hand over fist due to the San, but I never got the impression that that was his object. My impression is that he viewed himself as a man with a responsibility to bring wisdom and plain common sense to the people for their betterment.

I think he acted with integrity according to what he viewed his mission to be…I have to respect that. I’m not arguing with you, mind, just blabbing.

And to mention just one data point; he did live to be 91, after all. All those years of Protose may have paid off. :)

I also should say that the movie “The Road to Wellville” does him very short shrift and annoys me. They took the cheap cartoonish route with that movie, and the story is not as rich as it could have been IMO.

To contrast, you can read if you like his “Household Monitor of Health” online: [link] When I did, I was surprised at the sheer volume of good practical common sense health advice in there. Sprinkled with absolute nonsense here and there, to be sure (“Effects of Drinking Ice-Water” chapter).

However, if it turns out he spurned Michigan Beet Sugar, then I’m afraid I’ll have to lower my estimation…

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By: cmadler http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48396 cmadler Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:57:17 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48396 On a more serious note, was there any food or activity that people enjoy that Kellogg didn’t find time to argue against? If he had lived longer, he probably would have suggested that watching television leads to blindness and that computer use causes the brain to liquefy and evaporate through the ears.

Heck, he probably didn’t even like Michigan beet sugar.

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By: cmadler http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48395 cmadler Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:50:45 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48395 It is so obviously a plate for serving oysters, and it appeared a bit out of place in my feed reader, that my first thought was, “Hmmm, she left out the mystery item picture!”

And since last fortnight you challenged me to silly guesses, I will suggest that it is:

- A palette for painting, particularly seascapes.
- A special dish used by restaurants to serve a sampler platter of six soups, with a spot for oyster crackers in the middle.
- A somewhat melted attempt at putting suction cups on a frisbee.
- A dish used by a jeweler to display loose pearls.
- An early mock-up for the Lord of the Rings movies of the eye of Sauron.
- A dish used to taste-test different grades of Michigan beet sugar.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48392 Laura Bien Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:07:17 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48392 Cosmonican: That appetizer sounds scrumptious. Bacon + oyster = delectableness.

That is really a fascinating detail about the beef. It makes perfect sense. Oysters, if not shipped shucked, were of course live and fresh when they arrived in AA and Ypsi stores.

I would be less than charmed if my nice beef roast had…some extra protein (stomach churns).

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48391 Laura Bien Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:03:38 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48391 Barbara: Or would “too easy” be a stealth move to make it seem…too easy? :D

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By: cosmonıcan http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48389 cosmonıcan Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:58:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48389 Let’s not forget that wonderful dish: Angels On Horseback, which was a raw oyster on top of thin sliced bread, wrapped with bacon and skewered with a toothpick then grilled until the bacon was cooked. I was at a wedding reception a few years back with a retro menu and those were the most popular item.

I remember reading though (don’t remember where) that the Midwestern popularity of the oysters from the opening of the Erie Canal until refrigeration became common, had a lot to do with them being competitive in price with beef and other meats, and especially because they were fresh — live when you cooked them, not sold a week after slaughter and shipped in ice and sawdust like beef, which often was tough and full of maggots by the time it was served.

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By: Barbara http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48387 Barbara Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:16:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48387 Interesting article as always. Thank you. I’m going to guess that an oyster dish for the mystery artifact would be too easy. A deviled egg dish, perhaps?

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/06/24/in-the-archives-golden-age-of-oysters/comment-page-1/#comment-48385 Laura Bien Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=45511#comment-48385 Alice: That is just fascinating. I wish I could see that exhibit. Is there anything more interesting than the history of foodways? There is so much information and culture inherent in the kinds of things a given group of people ate. I see other interesting past exhibits on the page you kindly linked to. I’d love to see this museum.

In AA of course there is the nationally-recognized food history collection at the Clements Library, a real treasure. Lots of simply wonderful artifacts in there.

I read somewhere in my research that in line with your “mountains” of oysters comment that there were hundreds of oyster saloons and simple roadside stands in NYC in the late 19th century. They were everywhere.

And I must leave an obligatory Mencken quote here:

“The largest genuine Maryland oyster—the veritable bivalve of the Chesapeake…is as large as your open hand. A magnificent, matchless reptile! Hard to swallow? Dangerous? Perhaps to the novice, the dastard. But to the veteran of the raw bar, the man of trained and lusty esophagus, a thing of prolonged and kaleidoscopic flavors, a slow sipping saturnalia, a delirium of joy!” –H. L. Mencken, 1913

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