Comments on: Economy Teeters: We May(or) May Not Be Set http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55343 John Floyd Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:50:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55343 OK, you win.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55333 Rod Johnson Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:26:45 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55333 Something like two-thirds of the population of Utah is LDS, and a quarter of Idaho (and in southern Idaho, much higher). The LDS is supposedly the fourth largest denomination in the US, after, I presume, Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist and… Lutheran? I think it makes sense to identify a distinctively Mormon cultural area.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55331 Rod Johnson Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:19:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55331 Let me be the first to point out how I was missing the point in my comment above. Counties ≠ townships, duh.

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By: Dr Data http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55326 Dr Data Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:54:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55326 John,

On “Mormon Outpost” I’ll disagree with you. Here’s an interesting analysis of Facebook users. The author looked at who your Facebook friends were by geography. And, sure enough there was a “Mormon” Utah to Idaho type: [link]

The natural tendency is to not want to have a small group/type that only represents such a smaller population than some of the other groups. However, if that group is distinctive enough, it makes sense to let the group bubble up.

There are solutions to this. Code Mormons as Evangelical and the message you might be crafting would work equally well for both groups – socially conservative, strict sex roles, etc. However, Mormons are better educated, more successful than many Evangelicals are so depending on the purpose of your grouping, it might not make sense to combine them with Evangelicals.

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55316 John Floyd Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:52:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55316 By the way, Mr. Hohnke has never answered my thrice-asked question: “Can you tell us three or four ways that Ann Arbor should become like Portland, Seattle, or Boulder; in particular, can you tell us if one of those ways is for Ann Arbor to grow to, say, 300,000 – 500,000 people?, like Portland, Seattle and Boulder?”. Has anyone else had success getting this information out of Mr. Hohnke?

Separately, “Mormon Outpost” seems like a pretty small, narrow basis for assigning a national identity. There just aren’t that many Mormons.

John Floyd
Republican for Council
5th Ward

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55314 Rod Johnson Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:18:05 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55314 So if, say, Ferndale annexed the last tiny half-acre rump of Royal Oak Township, or if Pittsfield became a city, that number would change, right? Seem like that sort of thing happens all the time, not rarely.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55216 Dave Askins Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:29:11 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55216 Re: [1] “Actually, the number of counties in the US is now 3,142. Broomfield County, CO was created November 15, 2001.”

Yes, in the appendix of Patchwork Nation that lays out the some of the methodology for the assignment of counties to categories, there’s an acknowledgment of Broomfield [p. 220]: “New counties do occasionally emerge, for instance Broomfield, Colorado, and some disappear through consolidation, but this a rare occurrence.” The idea is that the authors wanted to base the analysis on something that’s relatively, even if not perfectly stable.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55215 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:13:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55215 Thanks for this intriguing preamble to the actual interview. I’ll have to check out Patchwork Nation. You raise some good questions here and on the totter.

I wasn’t able to attend the Pat Murphy talk (the LWV scheduled a conflict that night), but did attend the recent talk by Nicole Foss [link], as did Mr. Bean. She touched on peak oil and energy issues but also on some very thought-provoking points about the world money supply and the likelihood of deflation. As she said in only one subtle allusion to chaos theory, it is an example of complexity.

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By: DrData http://annarborchronicle.com/2010/10/12/economy-teeters-we-mayor-may-not-be-set/comment-page-1/#comment-55214 DrData Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:57:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=51597#comment-55214 Actually, the number of counties in the US is now 3,142. Broomfield County, CO was created November 15, 2001. Patchwork Nation must be based on data from Census 2000.

More important, I find it hard to take Bean as a serious candidate for mayor. His website, which I will not link to [good luck finding it in a normal Google search], still has this tidbit on it less than a month away from the election:

Thanks for being an engaged citizen and learning about my candidacy. I’ll be adding more information for your consideration over the coming weeks prior to the general election in November, so check back for issue statements and more.

There is a link to his experience but no platform. Instead, we can click through all of his media links to see what his views are; his plans for the city; etc.

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