Comments on: In the Archives: Edward Israel’s Polar Sky http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61986 Jim Rees Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:54:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61986 It does look like a theodolite, and it does seem to have a spirit level, but where are the scales for measuring the angles? That tiny dial to the left of the scope doesn’t seem big enough.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61935 Laura Bien Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:19:21 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61935 Gail: I was thrilled to read your note here and have sent you an email.

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By: Gail Boorum http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61932 Gail Boorum Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:51:48 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61932 My mother is a relative of Edward Israel (yes, she is up there in age) and was researching the expedition on the internet when she happened on the article that you just wrote. She would love to speak to you about your research. She’s very slow on the computer so it would be easier for her to talk via phone. If you’d be willing to talk with her, please e-mail me.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61811 Laura Bien Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:21:46 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61811 ABC: That’s neat about the beginning of astrophotography. Didn’t know that.

Photography: One photographer from one rescue boat took his box camera onto the shore of Cape Sabine to document the rescue. To give you an idea about conditions on the island, the large and heavy camera on a sturdy tripod kept getting blown over by the gale-like wind. He ended up only taking 2 pictures, 2 of the collapsed tent and two of the burial ridge, before giving up.

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61810 Laura Bien Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:19:05 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61810 cmadler: “it doesn’t look like you could flip that scope for backsighting”: good heavens, people, I feel like I’ve stumbled into a convention of surveyors here… :)

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61809 Laura Bien Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:17:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61809 George Lessard: Hmm, that does look vaguely similar. But of course a lot of measuring instruments also look vaguely similar…

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By: abc http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61804 abc Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:35:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61804 It does make sense that it is a measuring device (theodolite, transit). And an ‘early’ telescope would date back to the 13th or 14th centuries and would have been far less complex than this (think pirate movie, sort of).

“Of course photography was available at this time”. Laura you seem to be implying that ‘at this time’ was somewhere in the middle to late 1800’s by the statements that follow about the rescue. The photography that was available at the time of the rescue was most probably one of a handful of wet plate processes that followed the daguerreotype; flexible film was invented by Eastman Kodak around 1885 but then took years to be produced and available. Wet plates were metal or glass plates that were treated, or had treated paper, that would react to light to capture the images. These plates were also large, compared to the film that followed, and do not appear to be compatible with the ‘mystery object’.

Trivia – the first photo of space taken with a telescope was in 1880; the birth of astrophotography.

Oh and for the record (if there is a record) I was not correct with my guess on the last ‘mystery object’; I learned from my neighbors. Thank you all.

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By: cmadler http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61803 cmadler Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:59:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61803 I think that’s a theodolite, perhaps similar to the one Israel would have used on the voyage. I can’t tell from the image if it’s a transit or not, but I’ll guess not; it doesn’t look like you could flip that scope for backsighting.

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By: George Lessard http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61801 George Lessard Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:56:36 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61801 Its the theodolite… see [link]

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By: Laura Bien http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/01/21/in-the-archives-edward-israels-polar-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-61800 Laura Bien Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:50:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=56494#comment-61800 Interesting guess Fritz. Of course photography was available at this time; one of the photographs of the rescue, taken by a photographer from the 1884 rescue ships, was of prostrated Cape Sabine survivors lying under a collapsed tent, too weak to erect it properly.

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