Comments on: What’s Next for Public Mural Program? http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=whats-next-for-public-mural-program it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65781 Vivienne Armentrout Fri, 13 May 2011 13:54:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65781 I agree that placing a mural on the retaining wall on Huron Parkway is basically a defacement. Let’s keep this out of the areas where we should simply be enjoying nature. Murals are ok in a busy urban setting but don’t belong in parks.

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By: Mary Morgan http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65778 Mary Morgan Fri, 13 May 2011 13:34:27 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65778 The city has released more details about public meetings for the two proposed murals. A meeting for the mural proposed on concrete pillars at Allmendinger Park’s shelter structure will be held on Wednesday, May 18 from 6-7:30 p.m. at the Allmendinger Park shelter. A meeting for the northern retaining wall on the west side of Huron Parkway will be held on Wednesday, May 25 from 6-7:30 p.m. at Huron Hills Golf Course, 3465 E. Huron River Drive.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65659 Rod Johnson Sat, 07 May 2011 17:10:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65659 It’s true, now that you mention it, that’s one area that doesn’t need a lot of improvement. Art there could really be a… dehancement.

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65637 Tom Whitaker Fri, 06 May 2011 12:40:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65637 I drove that stretch of Huron Parkway yesterday, and I gotta say, it looks fine the way it is. There is concrete, steel, block and timber, yes, but there is a “natural,” background look to these materials that causes them to blend in well with the surrounding trees and green spaces. Murals here will only cause these retaining walls to stick out like sore thumbs. I think they should stick to beautifying ugly urban landscapes–like the walls of the downtown railroad underpasses that have been beautifully done with murals in recent years.

Also, I would hope that some of this funding could be put toward restoration of the better existing murals (and replacement of those of lower quality), or some of the cool old painted advertising signs that seem to be disappearing right and left from downtown. Many were art in their own right.

Seems ironic that with the looming lay offs of police and firefighters, and our deteriorating streets, that we have a committee trying so hard to find ways to dole out this huge pile of money that was taken from multiple other City “buckets.”

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65626 Rod Johnson Fri, 06 May 2011 03:42:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65626 Alan, I agree. I’m not trying to fix AAPAC or suggesting that the current council is likely to get this right. I’m just pondering what the “right” way to arts funding is, if we decide to do it.

And it’s true about rents. That’s why places like the East Village (or Ypsilanti) become such potent places. Artists follow cheap rent and communities follow artists (and then hipsters and yuppies follow them and the rent is no longer cheap). Maybe it’s a dream to think A2 can ever play that role again.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65612 Vivienne Armentrout Thu, 05 May 2011 20:44:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65612 I was mulling over similar questions when I was running for Council in 2008. I never did send in the questionnaire that asked whether I supported spending public money for art. (It was obvious that there was only one correct answer.) Anyway, I asked someone who had been involved in the arts community for a long time what the single greatest obstacle for local artists was. His answer was – high rents.

The Art Center proposal for 415 W. Washington (which is unfunded, to my knowledge) calls for studio space to replace in concept the old cheap rundown Technology Center (where the new Y now resides). I wonder whether they would plan to make those studio spaces available at low rents or whether they would have to pay for themselves.

I’ve also wondered (but have no information) about how easily low-budget local artists can sell at any of the Art Fairs. Of course we have many very successful local artists who do.

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65610 Alan Goldsmith Thu, 05 May 2011 18:39:51 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65610 @Rod

I agree with you about local incubators. It would have been nice if the locals arts community had stood up to the million dollar German art project and pushed for more ‘localism’ at the time, but they didn’t. They were more than happy to march lock-step along with AAPAC, expecting who knows what, I can’t read minds, but assuming anyone spoke out in the local arts community against the water fountain fiasco, do you honestly expect they would be doled out City Per Cent Art Funds in the future? That was a turning point for me–the parade of support from the same groups that wanted City funding makes me not at all inclined to have my tax dollars go to them now. I’d rather continue to spend my own money and not have it passed out the the clique of usual suspects who are looking for their share of the public pie. It’s like Mavis Staples and The Ark fundraiser and $500 ring side seats white wine and table clothes. I’d much rather, with all due respect to The Ark, go to see a fifty different local musician at ten bucks a ticket than Ms. Staples once. Same this with a German water fountain. But I don’t trust the process The Mayor and Council has put into place to do any better in the future.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65606 Rod Johnson Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65606 On the assumption that we don’t do what Alan suggests and continue to do public art, what should arts support be like? Let’s say there was a significant pool of public resources to support art (or “the arts” or “a vibrant arts sensitivity,” I like that) in Ann Arbor, but it wasn’t for… whatever it is AAPAC is doing now. What’s an alternative vision?

I think most people agree that grass-roots things like Festifools and Water Hill Music Fest are good things. I think throwing money at them, if it means having some kind of official oversight, would largely stifle them, but they deserve to be supported somehow. We have a bunch of similar institutions, like the Art Center and the Neutral Zone and the old Performance Network space and the Yellow Barn and the Blue House, that are kind of quasi-public and that act as incubators. I’d like to see more of that. Promoting an environment to make art in–spaces, organizations, communities, education–rather than buying big-ticket art showpieces, feels like a way forward to me.

The top-down approach of buying installation art…well, it’s nice that artists can get paid–though paying some guy in Germany doesn’t feel like the right use of local funds–but people are going to make art whether they get paid or not. I’d like to facilitate that aspect of “public art.”

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65536 Alan Goldsmith Tue, 03 May 2011 12:29:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65536 “I support a vibrant arts sensitivity leading to public involvement in art, like FestiFools, Fool Moon, and Water Hill Musicfest…oh whoops, no tax dollars involved in those.”

Bingo! But don’t forget the AAPAC wanted to give funds to Festifools from the Per Cent For Art Fund, but couldn’t. That’s the major problem with this entire mess. If you questions money being wasted, you’re called a Tea Party, anti-art low life. Give me back my tax dollars and I’ll give directly to local artists like I have for years. Art by committee never works–it only profits artists who are connected to the committee.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/05/01/whats-next-for-public-mural-program/comment-page-1/#comment-65530 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 03 May 2011 09:57:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=62487#comment-65530 I support a vibrant arts sensitivity leading to public involvement in art, like FestiFools, Fool Moon, and Water Hill Musicfest…oh whoops, no tax dollars involved in those.

Mayor Hieftje initiated this program and the Council has been too intimidated to question it, instead mouthing platitudes about Ann Arbor’s soul, etc. But I don’t think that they are really serving the purpose that they espouse. Surely now with all the financial challenges we face, it is time to rethink this program. How do we truly encourage a public understanding of art – and support local artists? Can institutionalized art really serve this purpose?

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