Comments on: DDA Elects Officers, Gets More Parking Data http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68729 Dave Askins Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:54:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68729 I wanted to pass along a status update on another local business affected by the construction – the Mail Shoppe, which is located on the Division Street side of the project. When I did my regular drop-off there, owner Carolyn Hough told me her business has been down by 25% and walk-in business specifically was down 50%.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68514 Dave Askins Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:10:04 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68514 This zipped file is in .csv format, and contains Ann Arbor DDA parking data from the 2008-2009 era [a2dda-parking.csv.zip] column 1: date and time column 2: structure column 3: # of spots

Some of that data was used in an interview with Republic Parking IT manager Stephen Smith, during which he was challenged to identify parking structures based on graphs of their fill patterns. And he did pretty well, especially considering he was balanced on the end of a teeter totter.

Those graphs are available as a part of the introduction to that interview.

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68503 Edward Vielmetti Sat, 09 Jul 2011 19:54:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68503 Tyler Erickson’s application here

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stopped collecting data about a year ago; he released the source code here

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and it has some amount of data from a year ago still visible, enough to illustrate what could be done.

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By: Fred Posner http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68494 Fred Posner Sat, 09 Jul 2011 19:07:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68494 Do you know if Tyler or anyone is still storing the parking data (self-reported by DDA)? I know I do not, however as of 10 min ago, the +1 (734) 272-0909 number is functional and reporting data self-reported by the DDA. Of course, I don’t know how accurate that data is.

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68486 Edward Vielmetti Sat, 09 Jul 2011 15:41:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68486 The story refers in passing to a corrupted database. I would like to understand more about the nature of that problem.

Two years ago there were independent assessments of detailed time of day structure capacity prepared by multiple individuals. The system currently produces minute by minute accounting of space availability. I don’t see any impediment to the DDA reporting on that to the public, short of the political will to deal with the consequences of that knowledge being widely available for citizens to draw their own conclusions from it.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68482 Dave Askins Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:50:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68482 Re: [1] “… all while occupancy hovers around 35%”

At the Wednesday committee meeting, some concern was expressed that when people see 35% or 40% or 50% on these graphs, they’ll conclude that the parking structures are vastly underused, because not everyone will reflect on what the denominator is for the calculation. I do think it’s worth taking seriously what the denominator is for that percentage: the total available hours in the structures, Monday-Saturday, 24-hours a day.

So 100% occupancy would translate essentially to round the clock car storage. But there are large swaths of time when I don’t think we’re really expecting more than a handful of cars to be parked in a structure (e.g., 1 a.m.-7 a.m.). So I’m not sure that 35% is low for this metric.

I think it will be interesting to see the eventual breakdown of occupancy during peak periods, say 11 a.m. – 1 p.m., and look at how different structures show different filling patterns during those times. This absolute measure of efficiency/occupancy is, I think, less interesting than the possible use of this metric as a benchmark for measuring the impact of different time/geography-based pricing schedules, which the DDA intends to deploy as part of its transportation demand management strategy. I think it’s reasonable that for each structure a “realistic” overall occupancy rate is calculated for that structure so that we can then check to see how much closer we’re getting to that realistic maximum occupancy rate.

I also think it’s reasonable that these various transportation demand management strategies be scrutinized based on their actual statistical impact. If letting parking prices vary (by time of day and geographic location, or location within a structure) doesn’t have some measurable (positive) impact on the efficiency of the parking system, then it’s reasonable to expect that these various transportation demand management strategies should be revised for another try, or eventually eliminated — if we discover we can’t achieve what we want with respect to efficiency.

One value of this metric is that it’s not tied to revenue. Transportation demand management is supposed to be about encouraging people to park in a pattern that’s best for everyone, not about squeezing as much possible revenue out of the system. But if transportation demand management strategies result in vastly more revenue, there will be some who point to that alone as sufficient evidence that “it’s working.” It’s not. You have to show that you’re able to accommodate a greater number of people in your parking system in order to claim success. I think this occupancy percentage measure that the DDA will now be receiving from Republic Parking is at least a step in that direction.

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By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/07/08/dda-elects-officers-gets-more-parking-data/comment-page-1/#comment-68479 Jim Rees Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:10:43 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=67350#comment-68479 We’re spending $40 million and ruining two local businesses to build the Fifth Ave structure, and we’re going to turn over park land to subsidize another structure for UM, all while occupancy hovers around 35%. I can see why DDA is reluctant to provide detailed structure occupancy data to the taxpayers who are footing the bill.

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