Comments on: N. Maple & M-14 http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=n-maple-m-14 it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: schoolsmuse http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-83750 schoolsmuse Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:19:46 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-83750 Dave, thanks for following up. It looks like they cross into multiple parcels, so I guess I’ll try emailing both the township and the city to see who they think is responsible!

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By: Bob Dively http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-83749 Bob Dively Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:32:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-83749 Boggled that snow removal is still an issue. I used to live in the neighborhood north of Skyline and was contacting the City and WCRC *3* years ago to try to get someone to clear the walks. After heavy snows people, including kids going to school, were actually walking *in* the roundabouts. Oh, yeah, the roundabouts are also terminus points for freeway entrance/exit ramps – what could possibly go wrong?

If that’s not bad enough, the county did (does?) a poor job of clearing the actual roundabouts. Sections of the roundabouts are clearly marked as having 2 lanes, but often the WCRC only cleared 1 lane, which naturally led to some interesting traffic issues.

Finally, many of those downed light poles have indeed been down far longer than they were ever up. I’m talking years here. One of them was knocked over literally within days of the roundabouts’ opening.

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-82313 Rod Johnson Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:56:47 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-82313 Dave, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the way you can find out this kind of information and get it back to us. As a private citizen, it’s hard sometimes to know where to start. Thanks for doing this.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-82307 Dave Askins Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:23:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-82307 Re: “Who is responsible for clearing [the sidewalks near the roundabouts].”

I spoke with Jim Harmon of the Washtenaw County Road Commission, who was able to explain who is not responsible: WCRC and MDOT. Harmon described communication between AAPS and WCRC on the topic in the form of the attendance of Skyline High School’s principal at a WCRC board meeting. However, WCRC doesn’t take on work like that, at least partly because it’s not resourced with the kind of equipment it takes to do that efficiently – rotating brooms and such.

So from a legal standpoint, responsibility will most likely fall to the local municipalities – either city of Ann Arbor or Ann Arbor Township.

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By: Karen Moorhead http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-82084 Karen Moorhead Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:55:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-82084 No lights with high schoolers bicycling and walking to school crossing traffic headed to or from the expressway sounds very dangerous. Wonder if there could be temporary light fixtures until permanent lights are reset.

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By: schoolsmuse http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-82041 schoolsmuse Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:55:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-82041 So then is the WCRC responsible for the sidewalks between the roundabouts as well?

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-81998 Dave Askins Wed, 07 Dec 2011 20:38:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-81998 Brent Schlack of the Washtenaw County Road Commission returned my call and provided some context. The two roundabouts near the entrance ramps to M-14 are handled by WCRC through an agreement with MDOT. The third one, closest to Skyline High School, is county land.

The poles are down due to collisions, not structural defect of the poles. The placement of the poles is currently being redesigned – the idea is that if motorists are crashing into them, their placement could be improved. Moving the location back further from the roadway, in turn, might require a different lighting requirement for the lamp.

The locational redesign and specification of the new poles is expected by January 2012. From the point of ordering new poles, 8-10 weeks will be required for them to arrive. From that point, the installation could be delayed by poor weather.

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By: marge http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-81817 marge Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:38:48 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-81817 There has been at least one light pole down since those roundabouts were constructed

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-81746 Rod Johnson Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:17:34 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-81746 Yeah, those light poles have been down for a long time.

I drive those roundabouts often, with a daughter at Skyline, and they work very well, except that some drivers seem to be rather timid about going through–but better timid than too bold.

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By: schoolsmuse http://annarborchronicle.com/2011/12/05/n-maple-m-14/comment-page-1/#comment-81741 schoolsmuse Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:10:30 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=77146#comment-81741 And I am interested in knowing who is responsible for maintaining the sidewalks between the first two roundabouts (coming from Miller)–the ones that go under M-14. Last winter there was a lot of snow that wasn’t cleared and kids were wading through that for weeks (or more often, walking in the streets because they were impassable). Who is responsible for clearing those?

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