Comments on: Planning Commission Upholds A2D2 Zoning http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88378 Rod Johnson Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:21:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88378 (Sorry, that wasn’t clear–I just mean the nameplates are misleading. It’s an odd effect.)

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88377 Rod Johnson Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:19:21 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88377 The caption in your second picture seems to be off by one.

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By: Andy http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88357 Andy Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:18:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88357 Interesting post today at the AtlanticCities.com about other cities around the world having exactly the same conversations we are here in Ann Arbor: [link]

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88346 Tom Whitaker Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:08:11 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88346 How does one begin to respond to a cowardly, anonymous post that perpetuates misinformation? I have no idea if I’m responding to the Mayor or one of his appointees, a member of Council, a member of the development team, or just some third-party with an agenda of his/her own.

I was very consistent all along in asking that the City simply follow the letter of the law in the City Place matter–which incidentally was not located in a downtown development zoning district. It’s very clear now that the puppet masters behind the project (the ones with the money) never had any intention of building anything but a maxed-out undergraduate warehouse, and that’s what is being built.

With all of the expert analysis laid at their feet by neighbors and others, those responsible for enforcing the zoning ordinances and laws had any number of opportunities to legally and responsibly shape the end result–whether it was a smaller undergraduate warehouse or an historic district that preserved the houses–but they did nothing. Or worse, they played along with the developer’s game of chicken because of their own personal vision of how the City should develop. How easy it is to blame those damn “NIMBY’s,” as if they were the ones who created this monster in the first place.

City Place does not glower at me. It glowers at the Mayor and Council, the planning commission, the City Attorney, the ZBA, and City planning staff. It glowers at everyone who has been responsible for City zoning for years, but failed to do anything to correct the deficiencies that allowed this to happen (and have still done nothing almost three years later). But most of all, it glowers at those who instigated this whole thing only to be pushed out the back door.

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By: liberalNIMBY http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88328 liberalNIMBY Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:41:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88328 Re: [1] PUDs

Does anyone else see the irony in this attitude, especially when it directly resulted in the recent destruction (instead of renovation) of several historic homes on 5th Avenue?

And yes, Martha, there is a place for PUDs and planned projects: Ask the Old West Side about the recent project on South Main they supported.

May City Place glower at you every time you walk by.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88311 Vivienne Armentrout Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:31:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88311 Re (2):

a. Thanks for the reference. These small lessons are one reason we love the Chronicle.

b. The pun machine seems well-oiled this month. Of course I’m complaining. That’s how one expresses appreciation for a good (BAD!) pun.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88308 Dave Askins Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:38:10 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88308 Re: [1] Euclidean zoning.

For readers not well-versed in the history of zoning laws in the U.S., the ancient geometer was not a zoning Greek. The reference here is to a U.S. Supreme Court case from 1926 (Village of Euclid v. Ambler Realty Co.)

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/02/11/planning-commission-upholds-a2d2-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-88306 Tom Whitaker Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:23:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=81090#comment-88306 Does anyone else see the irony of the commissioners going to great lengths to praise the D1 and D2 zoning process and how well-considered and appropriate it was, but then, from the other side of their mouths, telling this property owner how easy it is to work around it by submitting a “planned project?”

PUDs and Planned Projects are zoning tools that were created to provide some flexibility from the strict application of Euclidean zoning in order to deal with especially difficult parcels that present unique challenges to meeting the underlying zoning. They are not supposed to be used in every case simply to stretch every parcel to its maximum development potential.

Honestly, I don’t understand why–with the current City planning staff, planning commission, and city council we have–this property owner felt any need to bother with a rezoning request. He should simply do what other downtown project developers have done recently: submit what he wants to build as a planned project, add a few more parking spaces than the very few required (calling that a “public benefit),” then watch the project fly through the approval process. Just to be sure, he should also try to slip in the terms “luxury student housing,” “gateway project” or “young professional” now and then. They really like those.

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