Comments on: AAPS Mulls Revenue Enhancement Proposals http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Steven Norton http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-94271 Steven Norton Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:37:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-94271 Re: [20] Our last filing was the annual report for 2010, filed in January 2011. At that time, we also filed an amended Statement of Organization that, among other things, requested a reporting waiver since we were not going to be active for some time. Thus, we did not need to file any further reports unless we spent more than $1,000 in an election cycle. In fact, until just recently, we had not raised or spent any money since the November 2009 election cycle. We are now active for the May 2012 election cycle, and will be filing the required pre-election report on April 27.

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By: Account Ability http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93969 Account Ability Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:47:06 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93969 Account Ability is not about malice or name-calling or provocative adjectives. It’s about expecting financial stewardship and transparency, in this case regarding school administration and finances and advocacy. These are the issues that all voters rightfully ask ahead of a millage question.

Yet, the original question still remains [because the last filing, under any name, was for the year 2010]:

When will the citizens millage committee file their required annual financial report with the county? And for that matter when will the county stop turning a selective blind eye and issue a late notice?

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By: Rod Johnson http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93755 Rod Johnson Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:34:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93755 It sounds like they were notified of a problem and they fixed it. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (or harried volunteers trying to keep up with everything that needs doing).

Also, never underestimate the willingness of anonymous cowards (#1) to stir up trouble.

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By: Dave Cahill http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93719 Dave Cahill Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:16:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93719 As promised, here is the e-mail Mr. Norton sent to me yesterday (Monday) evening:

Dear Mr. Cahill,

Thank you for your letter of 6 April about our postcard for the Ann
Arbor Schools Tech Bond campaign. As you may have learned from the
County Clerk’s office, we are registered with the county and have been
for over 25 years. The only source of confusion is that we have been
registered under “Citizens Millage Committee,” without “Ann Arbor”
prepended to it.

The reason why the name did not originally include “Ann Arbor” is lost
in the mists of time; our ballot question committee has always been
active only for millage elections for AAPS or in which AAPS
participates. To clarify what we do, we have been using the name “Ann
Arbor Citizens Millage Committee.”

In response to the request from the Clerk’s office that we use the same
name in all materials, we have just changed the registered name of the
committee to the Ann Arbor Citizens Millage Committee. You should be
able to find us listed under that name in the County database as soon as
they update our records.

As to our website contact form, that was a mis-configuration of our
website which I have just fixed. The form should work correctly for any
visitor now.

Thank you for your interest in the A2CMC, and I hope you will consider
supporting our students and schools by voting “yes” on the tech bond
proposal on May 8th.

Regards,

Steven J. Norton
Treasurer, A2CMC

End of e-mail. Fast footwork! Note the involvement of the Clerk’s office.

Changing the group’s name is a good way to fix the problem. I’m also glad the web site is fixed.

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By: Steven Norton http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93672 Steven Norton Tue, 10 Apr 2012 02:05:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93672 Mr. Eaton [14] is quite correct. I’m currently treasurer of the (Ann Arbor) Citizens Millage Committee, and we have been registered with the County for 25 years – or more. The only confusion stems from the fact that the original name for the committee was simply “Citizens Millage Committee,” though it has only ever advocated for AAPS-related ballot issues. We have been including the “Ann Arbor” in our materials to clarify who we are. At the request of the County Clerk’s office, we have just changed our official name to “Ann Arbor Citizens Millage Committee.” I have explained all this to Mr. Cahill in a separate message.

There is nothing “shadowy” about the A2CMC – it is a purely citizens group (technically, a “ballot question committee”) run by volunteers who care about our local schools. It’s been around for quite some time, but since I became involved in the group, we ran the advocacy campaign to renew both the AAPS operating millage and the sinking fund, in 2008; the Ann Arbor portion of the Washtenaw Schools Millage campaign in 2009; and now the Ann Arbor Schools Tech Bond campaign. Indeed, the district cannot engage in advocacy, and does not. The A2CMC’s role is to take our case to our fellow citizens and encourage them to support the investments we need to make in our community.

Our address is printed in full at the bottom of every page of our web site, as required by law. The problem with our contact form on the web site was simply a mis-configuration, now fixed.

All this is rather a distraction from the crucial issues at stake in this upcoming election. Our schools face growing challenges and difficult choices. We need to focus on these real issues as a community.

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By: schoolsmuse http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93669 schoolsmuse Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:23:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93669 The Ann Arbor Citizens Millage Committee is not a new group. They are the same group that has worked on past school millage campaigns. I don’t know if they have changed their leadership but I don’t think so. And I found this out by. . . searching the web and being pointed to this Ann Arbor Chronicle article: [link].

And to Dave and Mary, regarding [11]: I’m glad that you have a back-of-the-pocket plan with the Ann Arbor District Library, but I am gladder (more glad?) that “Our front-line strategy is to remain in business.”

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By: Dave Cahill http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93631 Dave Cahill Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:05:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93631 Because they “merely failed to be consistent”, the average person (not as savvy as Jack Eaton) won’t be able to locate their campaign info on the County’s web site.

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By: Jack Eaton http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93609 Jack Eaton Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:32:26 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93609 The Citizens Millage Committee web site (http://www.a2cmc.org/) has a link at the bottom right hand corner called Recent Posts. All post have been made by either “Site Admin” or “Steven Norton”.

Mr. Norton is active with both the Ann Arbor Parents for Schools and the Michigan Parents for Schools organizations. Both advocate for sufficient school funding.

Mr. Norton’s LinkedIn information notes his connection to Michigan Parents for Schools, a recent school board candidate and employment with a company that does “design and financial services for non-profit organizations and small business.”

Mr. Norton’s name also appears on the January 2011 campaign finance form for the Citizens Millage Committee.

None of this seems shadowy, nefarious, or conspiratorial. It’s just a group seeking to supplement the State’s meager school funding. They merely failed to be consistent in the use of the name for their group.

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By: Dave Cahill http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93600 Dave Cahill Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:02:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93600 I sent an actual snail mail letter (how retro!) to the Ann Arbor Citizens Millage Committee on Saturday. I mentioned my failure to find the group on the Clerk’s campaign finance web page. I also pointed out the “Access Denied” problem.

I will let people know if and when I get a reply, and what the reply is.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/03/27/aaps-mulls-revenue-enhancement-proposals/comment-page-1/#comment-93594 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 09 Apr 2012 14:10:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=84368#comment-93594 Re (8) and (9): As a point of general information, I looked into the question of legal status of a citizen group that collects money for a particular purpose, including promotion or opposition to an issue. This was in connection with CATCC, the group that opposed the Library Lot hotel and conference center (the Valiant proposal). I was its treasurer for its brief existence.

What I found is that there are no legal requirements (disclosure, recordkeeping, etc.) for such a group until/unless there is actually a ballot issue involved. At that point, the group would have to file a statement of organization with the county, just like any political campaign, and report contributions and disbursements. (And of course, if it had been made into a 501(c)3 organization for tax deductibility, that is another level of accountability.)As the treasurer, I did nevertheless keep careful records and report all disbursements to the group (the account was closed a couple of weeks after the Council mercifully put a stop to the project).

But not filing campaign statements does not make a group “shadowy”. In the case of CATCC, members supplied their names for public view. [link]

I was not involved with CARD (incidentally, that acronym also applies to a citizen group working on the Pall-Gelman contamination [link]) but it was some years before everything was necessarily possessed of a website, etc. so this type of public disclosure would have been more difficult.

I find it amusing that an anonymous commenter uses “shadowy” as a term of opprobrium.

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