Comments on: Column: Let’s Put Life into City Elections http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Richard Dawn http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108811 Richard Dawn Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:08:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108811 Quick: Name the last Democrat v Republican “partisan” issue Council faced. I contend there really are very, very few. Our issues are: how much does downtown grow? Do we build a train station? Do we lay off public safety personnel? Not very partisan in a traditional political party way.

I find it extremely ironic that in Ann Arbor, a community that takes such pride in its diversity, tolerance and inclusiveness, requires individuals, who seek to serve the community, to affix upon themselves a partisan label as a type of pre-condition to providing that service. As we well know, many citizens seeking to provide local service have simply accepted a currently more favorable label while begrudgingly suppressing their true party allegiance.

We should abolish the locally meaningless party labels. Allow an open primary where the candidates would be evaluated on their local positions, not national affiliations and the top two vote getters would face each other in the general.

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By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108762 Jim Rees Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:56:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108762 The 2010 census says there are about 98,000 people in Ann Arbor over the age of 18. Some percentage of those will be ineligible or not registered here. So 95,000 does seem like a bit of an overcount. Still, turnouts seem too low.

“Running dogs” is a term I haven’t heard in a few years.

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By: KenK http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108655 KenK Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:46:20 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108655 Wow. Ann Arbor’s political ruling class and their running dogs don’t want any democratizing reforms that would threaten their stranglehold on power. What a surprise.

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By: Peter Zetlin http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108574 Peter Zetlin Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:07:57 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108574 One bit of data that’s worth considering when counting the percentage of registered voters who vote is that the voter rolls are not particularly up to date. It’s difficult to purge them, and many people counted as registered voters no longer live here.

As I remember, a recent check with the city clerk showed about 95,000 registered voters. Say the population of Ann Arbor is 114,000. That means that 83% are registered to vote. Subtracting the number of people who are not eligible, such as those under age, you get a even higher percentage of registered voters.

What’s a number that accurately reflects registered voters? I surly don’t know, but it’s likely to be less than 95K.

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By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108558 Jim Rees Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:17 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108558 We already have non-partisan elections. The candidates all call themselves Democrats regardless of which party they actually belong to.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108344 Dave Askins Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:05:23 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108344 Re: “… or else we’ll have decided we still like them partisan-style”

That’s not what I meant to write. Something more like, ” … or else we’ll have decided we like them non-partisan style after all.”

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By: Mary White http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108307 Mary White Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:06:45 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108307 It seems to me that in the age of Citizens United a non-partisan system would make it even easier for the one with the most money to win. At least under the current system the voter knows if he or she is voting for a Republican or a Democrat.
Also, I think that the partisan ballot is not the reason for the preponderance of Democratic candidates; it’s the facts that (1) Ann Arbor voters are still centrists of the old school, and (2) the Republicans have moved farther and farther right.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108306 Dave Askins Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:00:28 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108306 I don’t see any downside to a ballot question allowing voters to opt for a non-partisan system and considerable upside.

The upside to a ballot question is that many of points in this thread will have a chance to be put through a more demanding crucible of community conversation. Without an actual question on the ballot, the arguments are fairly academic.

And however the vote on the ballot question comes out, we will have either actively affirmed for the first time in a half century that we like our local elections the way they are, or else we’ll have decided we still like them partisan-style. Then we can move on to the next thing. Ann Arbor’s equivalent of Bruce Laidlaw 50 years from now can then include the ballot question of 2012 in the written history of Ann Arbor elections and why they are partisan/non-partisan. (I’m planning to be dead by then.)

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108289 Steve Bean Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:48:30 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108289 @6: “If you want Tea Party Republicans to wage stealth campaigns by calling themselves non-partisan, then go ahead and have non-partisan elections.”

You mean as opposed to Republicans becoming Democrats?

@10: “But the partisan identification of a candidate is often the most important piece ofinformation about that candidate. It tells the voter how the candidate is likely to stand on a wide variety of issues.”

Name ten.

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By: liberalNIMBY http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/06/17/column-lets-put-life-into-city-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-108266 liberalNIMBY Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:38:59 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=89799#comment-108266 I would be in favor of considering eliminating odd-year elections, and almost ANY other system (IRV, Approval Voting, etc.) that held elections on Election Day instead of our current idiocy. People can barely get up to speed on state and federal issues once a year, and you’re asking them to take on an interest in local issues… at an odd election time? Readers of this fine publication are fine with this, but the majority of folks in this town are clearly not.

With regard to non-partisan elections, it appears there’s a lot of data out there that would indicate how cities fare when they’re non-partisan. I think it’s at least worth investigating how voters turn out in other college towns relative to us, and whether deceptive people are any more likely to get elected via “stealth” campaigns in non-partisan systems. I know we’re special, but it seems that the 99% of other communities in Michigan might’ve been on to something when they made the decision not to politicize local government elections. (Is there really a Democrat or Republican way to fill a pothole?)

Plus, there is little to no candidate vetting by the Democrat or Republican “establishment” in this area. As noted in the previous column, this was the one of the original reasons for establishing a partisan system.

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