Comments on: Pre-Thanksgiving Council Pre-Heats Oven http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: rohana jayaratne http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-155955 rohana jayaratne Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:59:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-155955 congrats,sumi kailasapathy,may your success grow from strength to strength.

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By: Mark Koroi http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-155530 Mark Koroi Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:11:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-155530 Chuck, as you likely know, the Quakers’ history in Palestine goes back to the 1860s. The Friends School in Ramallah has operated since 1869 and continues to this day as a premiere institute of learning in the West Bank. Mohammed Issa, a Ramallah native currently sits on the Ann Arbor Human Rights Commission and Hani Bawardi, a University of Michigan professor, originally from Nazareth also served on that commission.

Local Quakers spearheaded the People’s Food Coop boycott vote against Israeli products in 2007 and several have taken part in the Temple Beth Israel vigils.

I look forward to your continued advocacy of peace in that region.

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By: Chuck Warpehoski http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-155167 Chuck Warpehoski Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:42:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-155167 re: #3, as a Quaker I chose the option to affirm, not swear.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-154409 Steve Bean Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:08:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-154409 Were they pre-heating the oven to cook the sausage they were making? ;-) I’m thankful for every one of them sitting at the table and what they bring to it.

“Petersen won the August Democratic primary against incumbent Tony Derezinski, while Kailasapathy and Warpehoski won their respective Democratic primaries against Eric Sturgis and Vivienne Armentrout, when incumbents Sandi Smith and Carsten Hohnke did not seek re-election.”

I prefer the latter characterization of seeking office to the former of competing for it.

“The council was asked to authorize $15,000 to pay for a study of alternatives to filling a gap in Ann Arbor’s sidewalk system along Scio Church Road.”

That’s an interesting contrast to the process for the approval of the underground parking structure.

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By: Mark Koroi http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-154382 Mark Koroi Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:00:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-154382 @Vivienne Armentrout:

“….[t]his is not the way government should be conducted.”

The AATA has had its share of problems and poor judgment.

This article also alludes to the AATA lawsuit by Blaine Coleman and the ACLU that is being defended with public funding by two expensive outside law firms in United States District Court in Flint. The Maddin Hauser firm was appointed by the AATA’s liability insurance carrier and the AATA has a $50,000.00 deductible for defense costs. Dave Askins had confirmed that the first month’s legal bill for representation last year was almost $7,000.00 for that firm alone. I am wondering what are the current billings and expenditures for costs and attorney fees to defend this action. The AATA aslo hired a University of Michigan professor as an expert witness at the rate of $250.00 per hour. I also wonder what attempts are being made, if any, to mediate a compromise in the case.

Under the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1871 pled in this case, the prevailing party may seek an award of attorney fees as a prevailing plaintiff even with a partial victory – which they have likely already achieved with Judge Goldsmith’s recent ruling on the request for a preliminary injunction.

The AATA’s potential exposure in this federal proceeding in attorney fees alone could easily run upwards of six figures. I fail to see what public objective is advanced by the AATA continuing to fight this matter in court.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-154338 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:29:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-154338 It took me a while to get around to reading this lengthy post but I want to congratulate you on your background analysis of several procedural issues. The discussion of Robert’s Rules, the meaning of published and unpublished court decisions, and the criticism of AATA’s handling of the opt-out procedure were all much clarified by your explanations.

I have to agree with CM Kunselman’s comment about AATA’s adherence to procedure. I was shocked earlier this year to find that they had not troubled to complete the process of enrolling the various township districts into Act 7 agreements. They had stated clearly that this had been done, but when I investigated, it turned out that many had not been finished. I’ve been assured that this was finally taken care of, but they had meanwhile solicited members for their u196 board and carried on as though all those steps were complete. This is not the way government should be conducted.

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By: Patti Smith http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-153832 Patti Smith Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:14:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-153832 Thanks to Sabra & Mayor Hieftje for their kind words :) I would also wonder about myself if I didn’t know me. I am looking forward to serving on the commissions for which I’ve been nominated. I can see the confusion about the historic commission…that is certainly an area I am interested in but there is no way I could serve on that even if the whole city council camped out on my front lawn, singing for me. (That would be AWESOME though!!!) I only mentioned it as a commission that I am interested in, at some point in the future. If any of the concerned council members are reading this, I’d love if they would email me (teacherpatti [at] fastmail [net]) with any questions or concerns. Or come and sing at my house, any time!
Anyway, thanks for those who nominated me and I hope I am confirmed next Monday.

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By: Christopher Taylor http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-153430 Christopher Taylor Mon, 26 Nov 2012 02:24:05 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-153430 @DC — No sir. :-)

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By: David Cahill http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-153417 David Cahill Mon, 26 Nov 2012 01:53:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-153417 @Christopher Taylor – So your lips weren’t moving? 8-)

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By: Jim Rees http://annarborchronicle.com/2012/11/25/pre-thanksgiving-council-pre-heats-oven/comment-page-1/#comment-153377 Jim Rees Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:59:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=101205#comment-153377 Ms. Briere needs to brush up on her history. The City of Ann Arbor and Scio Church Road were both built for pedestrians. The notion that people aren’t entitled to use the roads for walking came along later.

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