Comments on: City Council Debates Utility Connection Costs http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192882 Vivienne Armentrout Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:09:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192882 As an update, this report [link] mentions the $120 million in revenue bonds voted to replace the Wastewater Treatment plant last year (sewage treatment) and now the Water Treatment plant needs some fixes. A possibility of higher fees is discussed.

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By: Walter Cramer http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192558 Walter Cramer Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:19:52 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192558 So…it costs about $41,000 for water/sewer hook-ups for a single-family house built on an empty lot. What is the hook-up cost, if a few small retail buildings (say, 4 stores, 3 little offices, and 2 apartments) are replaced by a 14-story apartment building with 200+ apartments (say, 500 bedrooms)? If the City doesn’t charge about $41K x 200 = $8,200,000, well why not? You could argue that the single family house will use more water than any apartment (watering the lawn & such), but with footer drains disconnected, will it use much more sewer service?

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By: Jack Eaton http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192310 Jack Eaton Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:51:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192310 I think the decision to deny the nearly automatic increase in the water and sewer connection fees is more meaningful than this one consent agenda item. For years the City has routinely increased fines, fees and the cost of doing business with the City. Questioning the fee increases would have been unimaginable just last year.

Of particular note, the staff was unable to draw a direct link between the rate charged for connecting these services and whether any particular project would be funded. Only a couple of dozen property owners pay this fee in any year. The combined $41,000 in fees times 24 instances of connection would generate about $1 million dollars. While that seems substantial, it is really just a drop in the bucket compared to the actual cost of any one sewer or water main project. Each such project relies on a different combination of funding sources (federal, state and local) and this fee is not related to any precise calculation of need.

The “Fixed Charges for the 2013 Water and Sanitary Sewer Improvement Charges” resolution appeared on the consent agenda and would likely have drawn no attention if it had been approved on a voice vote for the whole consent agenda. Council Member Jane Lumm asked that the resolution be considered separately because she had some questions for staff. I don’t think she intended to seek denial of the resolution but the answers to her questions and the questions of other Council Members led to the conclusion by most that this fee increase was not necessary.

These connection fees have increased by about 50% in nine years. But for the attention drawn to the continuing increases and the lack of connection to any funding need, the fees would have continued to increase at a rate well above the general rate of inflation.

In the end, Council voted 6-4 (Teall absent) to deny the fee increases. The real significance of this vote is that Council as currently configured may not be willing to support almost automatic fee and fine increases. I think this new scrutiny of fee increases is much more significant than the single vote taken at that meeting.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192067 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:41:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192067 Re (8) I wonder how much land is left within the city for single-family house development? I have noticed some big ones going in around the Geddes/Gallup park area. But I’m guessing that utility hookup fees are a very small part of the cost estimation. New construction is always expensive.

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By: Gill http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192061 Gill Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:14:52 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192061 It seems like the high fees would encourage builders to max out the house size (and sale value) to offset the total costs to develop. So instead of a small ranch house with 1.5 baths, we get a 4,000 square foot house with 6 bathrooms, 3 water heaters, and 2 furnaces. This is alright for student rental houses, but probably not affordable one-lot single family homes outside the downtown.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192043 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:28:07 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192043 The two systems are entirely different and have different cost structures. YCUA buys water from the City of Detroit (a whole nother story) and Ann Arbor must obtain and treat its own drinking water. I’m not current on this, but at one time YCUA was incinerating its sludge, while we have been spared that environmental insult.

I might add that the City of Ann Arbor Wastewater Treatment Plant has been under EPA interdiction for some time and we are at some stage of planning for its expansion or replacement. I haven’t kept up with this, but I’m sure it would have an impact on the costing for adding new service.

I’d love for some investigative reporter to slog through all the expansion costs (to the system) for downtown development and see whether that has been adequately charged back. I learned during the (last) conference center exercise that the downstream sewer from the Library Lot has capacity problems. People don’t consider when these big residential buildings are being built downtown that the “existing infrastructure” wasn’t constructed for hundreds of showers and toilet flushes every morning. I suspect that a large FOIA budget and tons of time would be required.

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-192020 Alan Goldsmith Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:47:12 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-192020 “I see the connection fee for a 1.5″ water service in Ypsilanti (YCUA) is $2,800, and the City of Ann Arbor is $5,900. The connection fee for a 4″ sanitary service in YCUA is $1,600, and the City of A2 is $35,700. Why the large difference in sanitary fees?”

If this information is correct, it’s a clear indication that Ann Arbor isn’t interested in affordable housing for middle class families and individuals. All these costs add up as we move towards a city more interested in the Ann Arbor One Per Cents and less about everyone else.

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By: Gill http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-191882 Gill Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:13:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-191882 I see the connection fee for a 1.5″ water service in Ypsilanti (YCUA) is $2,800, and the City of Ann Arbor is $5,900. The connection fee for a 4″ sanitary service in YCUA is $1,600, and the City of A2 is $35,700. Why the large difference in sanitary fees?

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-191867 Dave Askins Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:58:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-191867 Re: [2] ” … the first thing Sturgis does as a member of the Taxicab Board is fail to appear for the first meeting as a board member ”

I attended the taxicab board meeting, and hope to offer a report out on that meeting. During the conversation about attendance and scheduling, it emerged that Sturgis had actually applied for an appointment with the understanding that the board regularly met at 8:00 a.m., which it did when he applied. The board has since changed its meeting time (in an effort to achieve a quorum more easily). Even with Sturgis, there’s a vacancy on the five-member board. That means it’s still somewhat of a challenge to achieve a quorum. If two members are absent, they can’t conduct business. On Jan. 24, however, they had three members and were able to handle an appeal from a driver who’d been denied a license. (Spoiler alert: The appeal was granted.)

Based on Briere’s comments reported in this article, the issue with residency is that the resume should be updated to reflect his actual residency in the city of Ann Arbor.

Regarding a possible analysis of any appointment to the taxicab board as a political reward, I’m skeptical – regardless of the personalities involved. It’s long been a challenge to find people to sit on the taxicab board. If anything, I’d say the appointee is doing the appointer a favor, not the other way around. I think service on the taxicab board probably epitomizes “thankless public service.” I was glad the stars happened to align so that I was able to wedge it into my schedule last week.

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By: Mark Koroi http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/01/26/city-council-debates-utility-connection-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-191865 Mark Koroi Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:26:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=104953#comment-191865 The City Council voted unanimously to appoint Eric Sturgis to the Taxicab Board.

Interstingly, the first thing Sturgis does as a member of he Taxicab Board is fail to appear for the first meeting as a board member two days later. Did he have an excuse?

An there is still confusion about his residence as there was when he ran for City Council. His resume does not reflect an Ann Arbor residency.

Was this Hieftje nomination just a political payback for his opposition to Sumi Kalasapathy?

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