Comments on: Committee Starts Downtown Park Research http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Eric J http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-196500 Eric J Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:01:26 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-196500 Commenter #8 probably does not like the word “bum” but there sure are a lot of them around town these days, counted 30 in the downtown library Sunday before last, Saturday the police were there twice to deal with flipped out or OD’d ones.

Perhaps we should refer to them as unfortunates.

Take a couple home if you like, try to improve them, but first lock up the liquor cabinet, hide your money, jewelry, and tau beta pi pin.

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By: Jack Eaton http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-195488 Jack Eaton Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:24:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-195488 Re (18), Dr.Data, I agree that acres of parkland per 1,000 residents is a crude measure. I would suggest that it is merely a starting point to dispel the misconception that Ann Arbor has too much park space.

Within the context of how much parkland we have, we must also consider the various uses. Nature areas can be quite large, but offer only limited recreation. Active uses have less impact on environmental protections. We need a good balance. We should not allow that discussion to proceed while failing to recognize the need for more parks space.

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By: DrData http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-195246 DrData Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:52:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-195246 Re #8 Jack Eaton on parkland per capita:

I think a more useful indicator would be some sort of primacy measure that takes in the distribution of parks by size. A city might have a zoo, which is really large and then just a few other parks. I wouldn’t want to rate that city’s parks per capita the same as a city that had 50 parks.

Likewise, I think one gets more bang for the buck with linear park, with might be 50 feet wide and 20,000 feet long as compared to that same configuration as a square. Almost all parts of that 50 foot width will be traversed. Some parts of the Arb are probably never walked on except by squirrels and stray dogs.

That said, I think cities need all sorts of parks.

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By: liberalnimby http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-195022 liberalnimby Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:49:24 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-195022 Good comments. If I may continue your list:

3. Plymouth’s Kellogg Park is on their Main Street, in the historic core (the town grew up around it), and is therefore surrounded by their best shops and restaurants. In contrast to Library Lane, it does not face alleys, the sides and backs of buildings, or a bus station. It is comparable to how the campus evolved around the Diag.

And I would second the demolition of the Federal Building, but that doesn’t look likely anytime soon.

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By: Carol http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-195015 Carol Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:33:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-195015 Comment #11 hits the nail on the head. Check the links and learn. And #9 also makes salient points. There is a need for a space to congregate, relax, enjoy in the midst of downtown. And let us not take forever with a zillion committees and reports, and let us not hire consultants whose reports we will pay for and then ignore. We can figure this out by studying the situation and listening to those who have already studied the pros and cons, and then we can do it.

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By: fridgeman http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-194902 fridgeman Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:29:23 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-194902 Sorry, hit ‘submit’ too quickly…

Plymouth’s town square is nice indeed, but I see two key differences with our situation here:

1. There are many more residential neighborhoods within a short walk of downtown Plymouth, so that townsfolk and their families can easily get to the town square and enjoy it. (Ann Arbor has a few on the west side, but north, east, and south are all surrounded by UM and student housing)

2. Plymouth has a negligible homeless population compared to Ann Arbor.

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By: fridgeman http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-194899 fridgeman Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:26:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-194899 Plymouth’s town square is nice indeed, but I see two key differences with our situation here:

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By: Bob Martel http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-194891 Bob Martel Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:13:38 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-194891 #9 is quite right. I’m reminded of downtown Plymouth, MI. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a resource like that in our midst?

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-194732 Timothy Durham Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:48:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-194732 Amen, brother. What a monstrosity.

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By: Will Hathaway http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/02/06/committee-begins-research-on-downtown-park/comment-page-1/#comment-194728 Will Hathaway Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:07:39 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=105707#comment-194728 I applaud the Parks Advisory Commission for taking a serious look at all the issues related to downtown parks and plazas in Ann Arbor. I think Amy Kuras is absolutely right – there should be “a vision for a downtown parks system.” Part of the problem at Liberty Plaza is its isolation as the only park space in the downtown (Yes, I know that some people contend that the Diag is a public park…). We’d like to see a system of interrelated, downtown public open spaces and a coordinated plan for maintaining and securing them.

The Library Green group, of which I am a member, has revived an idea that has been around for generations – predating the relatively recent documents cited in the anonymous comment #3 – the goal of recreating Ann Arbor’s lost town square. This isn’t some opportunistic idea conjured up to block a particular development proposal. The Library Green’s push for a public open space on the Library Lot is not “narrow.” Rather, we seek the kind of open, inclusive community dialogue that it seems like the Parks Advisory Commission is working toward [link]. Those who claim that the “Connecting William Street” (CWS) process was “open and transparent” should look at it more closely if only to ensure that we never repeat that mistake. For those who want to better understand how the DDA’s CWS process is flawed, the Library Green put forth a detailed critique: [link to .pdf].

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