Comments on: Details on FY 2014 Budget Debate http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250960 Timothy Durham Fri, 31 May 2013 20:05:56 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250960 “As to who’s responsible for buying what were state-of-the-art lightposts 30 years ago, who cares?”

So 30 years ago.

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By: Ruth Kraut http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250953 Ruth Kraut Fri, 31 May 2013 19:23:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250953 Maybe I missed it in the article, but when were the (rusting)light poles put in?

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250936 Alan Goldsmith Fri, 31 May 2013 12:28:42 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250936 “As to who’s responsible for buying what were state-of-the-art lightposts 30 years ago, who cares? They rusted and they have to be replaced.”

Yep who cares? It’s only money, it’s only assessing responsibility and asking questions to save tax dollars in the future. Yeah, who cares? Apparently not Ms. Lowenstein from her actions on the DDA and her statements here and in her charming The Ann commentary piece.

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250935 Timothy Durham Fri, 31 May 2013 12:13:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250935 I care about downtown Ann Arbor and I care about who installed the light posts. How’s that?

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By: Joan Lowenstein http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250858 Joan Lowenstein Thu, 30 May 2013 17:19:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250858 I think what Councilmember Taylor meant was that no one else actually cares about the downtown. When I was on city council, some councilmembers would say that few of the downtown merchants and property owners lived in Ann Arbor, so since they weren’t voters they didn’t really matter. Now at least some of the council recognizes that downwtown is crucial to the city’s economic development, but the DDA is still the major advocate. As to who’s responsible for buying what were state-of-the-art lightposts 30 years ago, who cares? They rusted and they have to be replaced.

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250646 Timothy Durham Tue, 28 May 2013 22:16:15 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250646 I’d be interested in hearing an answer to this question, too:

“In the meantime, no one at the DDA or the city has publicly asked the question: Aren’t light poles supposed to last longer than this? And who oversaw the original installation of steel posts resting flush on concrete?”

Some of the Victorian-ear lamp posts in London are still standing. How is it that the British (and other European cities) can erect street lamps that last 100+ years while Ann Arbors last only a few years and then rust out?

Who’s responsible for this?

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250641 John Floyd Tue, 28 May 2013 21:50:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250641 Chris,

Does the DDA have a secret handshake, too, to go along with its secret knowledge?

If I read you correctly, there is nothing going downtown that city staff can’t handle; you seem to say that it is council who is not up to the task of representing that part of their wards, the same way they handle the rest of their wards.

As to delegation of duties, for decades running the city of Ann Arbor has been delegated to the city manager. The question remains: why is the city manager not competent to manage this one part of town? One often hears reference to the secret knowledge required to repair sidewalks, erect planters and hire Republic Parking as long as these activities are in the center of town. No explanation of the nature of this knowledge is ever offered. If you have something to share about the uniqueness of the DDA beyond its powers of tax diversion, I for one would be glad to hear it.

PS Isn’t it unwise to even PASS a budget you do not understand?

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By: Timothy Durham http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250584 Timothy Durham Tue, 28 May 2013 11:25:02 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250584 Dave,
This is the way that comment struck me while reading it (along with a good chunk of John Floyd’s take on it):

“The idea that the DDA board is privy to additional information that gives it a keen understanding of downtown – beyond what’s available to a councilmember or any other member of the public – is, I think, simply laughable, and does not even warrant serious discussion.”

But I did not hear him say it, so thanks for clearing that up. An off-hand comment like that could end up decorating campaign signs of his opponent..

How many dis-elected city council members, having gained this more perfect understanding of the downtown, moved on (up?) to the DDA?

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250555 Steve Bean Tue, 28 May 2013 01:34:37 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250555 The question that arose after I read Chris’s remark was, then what is the DDA doing making decisions about funding for affordable housing? Maybe Dave’s comment above points to the answer.

By the way, Dave, you left out a big one.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/05/25/details-on-fy-2014-budget-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-250551 Dave Askins Tue, 28 May 2013 00:58:08 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=113256#comment-250551 Re: “It is unwise to revise a budget when you do not understand all the considerations/information that underlay the initial determinations.”

It’s up to the council to uphold its statutory obligation, quoted out in the article, to approve the DDA’s budget before the DDA board adopts its budget. So the council doesn’t revise the DDA’s budget, but rather sets it. So it’s entirely fitting and proper for the council to have undertaken the budgetary action it did on Monday night – to set the DDA’s budget – over the lone dissent of Christopher Taylor.

One value of having attorneys serve on appointed bodies is, Christopher Taylor has opined, that attorneys can “spot issues.” Yet this issue – the out-of-sequence budget approval process by the DDA – has gone unspotted apparently for at least a decade (not to mention Chapter 7 compliance). That’s despite an ample cadre of attorneys who’ve served in the past and on the present DDA board.

The idea that the DDA board is privy to additional information that gives it a keen understanding of downtown – beyond what’s available to a councilmember or any other member of the public – is, I think, simply laughable, and does not even warrant serious discussion.

Having covered the DDA board closely for five years, I would agree with the self-assessment of one current DDA board member: It is largely a reactive body, that responds to proposals that are brought before it – not a body that has a clear vision of projects it wants to undertake and a plan to complete them. When the city wanted to purchase the YMCA building, so that the AATA could not purchase it, the city leaned on the DDA, and the DDA responded. When the city wanted $8 million from the DDA to support the new Justice Center, the city leaned on the DDA, and the DDA responded. When the Ann Arbor Housing Commission approached the DDA with a request for a new roof, the DDA responded. The AATA comes and asks for $500,000 a year for an additional subsidy for commuter transportation, and the DDA responds. The city says to the DDA: You must use the tax you capture from the sidewalk millage to repair sidewalks in the DDA district, and the DDA responded. The DDA has always responded … by saying yes. The city now comes to the DDA and says: The light poles on Main Street are falling down, and we need close to $500,000 to fix them – and I expect the DDA will respond.

In the meantime, no one at the DDA or the city has publicly asked the question: Aren’t light poles supposed to last longer than this? And who oversaw the original installation of steel posts resting flush on concrete?

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