Comments on: County Board Eyes Slate of Revenue Options http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-266683 Steve Bean Sun, 08 Sep 2013 13:41:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-266683 @11: Well, at least one person is paying attention.

I had thought that the fourth wave was complete on the 21st, but it continued through the 23rd. The fifth wave (down) was from then through the 27th. That completed the first wave of one higher degree since the August 2nd top. The upward retracement since then is the second wave. When it’s done (and it may be at this point, though there’s a gap in the S&P from August 14th around 1685.39 that could get filled), the third (downward) wave will be larger and swifter than the wave one down.

Setting aside my ability to accurately interpret the wave pattern in real time (or lack thereof), my intention has been to draw attention to something that most people are simply complacent about. The stock market has topped and will drop on the order of 75% from here. Most supposed wealth will simply disappear. There’s still some time to protect some of it and put it to actual use in some increased level of self-sufficiency at both the individual and community levels. That so few people are aware of what’s happening and willing to talk about it doesn’t bode well for us.

There’s time this fall to plant some fruit and nut trees, buy some compost, and build the soil in order to begin the shift from consumer to producer.

The committed lawn mowers and new car buyers will probably have the hardest time with the end of growth and abundant fossil fuels. And a lot of them will be angry about it. We’re nowhere near prepared for that.

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By: John Q. http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-266562 John Q. Sat, 07 Sep 2013 19:14:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-266562 The markets actually went up August 22 Steve. They did drop a week later but now back up to the same level as when you posted on August 21.

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By: Joe Zurawski http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-265862 Joe Zurawski Tue, 03 Sep 2013 20:26:44 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-265862 I had to CHOKE over the comments regarding the Sheriff’s Department.

How many “Patrol” deputies are there?
How many are paid for by the contracting municipalities?
How many are paid for by the County?

“LaBarre said he worried about cutting the sheriff’s office down to a point where it becomes solely reactive.” I’ve got news for you, Andy.Except for what the contracting units provide IT’S ALREADY THERE!

“Dan Smith (R-District 2) pointed to Clayton’s comments about the board recognizing the importance of having safe communities throughout the county. Crime does not respect municipal boundaries, Smith noted, and having businesses and homes that are safe countywide affects everyone. This board has recognized that for a long time, he said.”

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262909 Steve Bean Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:53:11 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262909 Here’s one for you, Vivienne. The stock market’s looking pretty volatile this afternoon. Tomorrow’s drop should be a doozy (a third wave of a third wave of a fifth wave in the S&P, I believe). The professionals are moving to the short side.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262774 Steve Bean Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:05:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262774 @7: The City of Ann Arbor has a property assessed clean energy (PACE) program that the county could emulate:

[link 1]
[link 2]
[link 3]

Doing it so that businesses “grow and employ more people” isn’t the goal of the program. The intention is to spend less on energy, pollute less, and keep more financial assets in the community, all of which in turn help keep the businesses viable. Employment increases would likely occur in the energy-efficiency services industry, though.

Maybe the county could help get the state to allow a residential version of the program as well.

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By: Alan Goldsmith http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262743 Alan Goldsmith Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:00:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262743 “He also suggested the possibility of using the county’s pension funds to invest in local businesses so that they grow and employ more people. “That’s a budget-neutral approach – that doesn’t take any additional tax money at all,” he said. The board should be thinking of strategies like this as the budget is developed.”

Lord only knows what ‘local businesses’ the financial astute Mr. Smith would suggest the County invest in. Just the sort of thing the Detroit Pension Board was famous for, all of which is documented via Free Press and Detroit News investigative reporting. The last person on the planet we need to get financial management tips from is Mr. Smith.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262739 Steve Bean Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:31:13 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262739 @5: My “prophet mode” is just a matter of summarizing the many months (financial)/years (fossil fuels) of gathering information on such matters in order to keep my posts on them from being much longer than they already are. Of course, there’s a big, implied “IF” that goes in front of all of it. On the other hand, that “if” gets smaller and smaller each day as past projections by the experts I follow play out accurately.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262670 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:01:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262670 I love it when Steve goes into prophet mode. I’d just like to note that 10-year treasuries are going up in interest rate (down in price) and that China and India have slowed their investment in Treasuries.

When Bob Guenzel offered county employees 3% raises each year for 5 years, I asked him how this would work if we went into a deflationary period. His answer was “Not in my lifetime”. That was about 2004.

Yes to NO for a four-year budget. How can you project for that long a time?

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262666 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:32:17 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262666 Your statement, “Clayton told commissioners that although he and other electeds don’t make the final decision about the county’s budget, they are all following the board’s discussions with great interest, because their operations will be affected.” doesn’t quite compute. The BOC is also elected. I think you meant the other county-wide elected officials who are also heads of departments.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/08/16/county-board-eyes-slate-of-revenue-options/comment-page-1/#comment-262661 Steve Bean Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:03:58 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=118541#comment-262661 @2: “US treasuries”

Make that short-term US treasuries.

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