Comments on: Downtown Zoning Review Nears Final Phase http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273620 Steve Bean Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:43:59 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273620 Perhaps of interest relative to “affordable housing”, particularly if you conflate it with home ownership:

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It applies here as well as in the UK even though prices have rebounded. The bigger drop is ahead.

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By: Edward Vielmetti http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273495 Edward Vielmetti Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:49:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273495 This is the report that’s illustrated with the “giant blocks of cheese” designs? I wonder how much the perception of how buildings are going to affect the landscape is affected by using this design concept (and not grey monoliths or brick towers).

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273476 Dave Askins Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:18:14 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273476 Re: “composition of the design review board”

The city council’s Oct. 21, 2013 agenda will include council approval of the design review board’s bylaws, which were already adopted by the design review board earlier this year (in May). [.pdf of design review board bylaws]

The bylaws to be considered by the council include the following description of membership:

Appointments of members shall be made, insofar as a possible, from candidates who have an interest in the design of the built environment and its relationship to the downtown and the broader community. To support comprehensive design review, 2 members shall be landscape architects, 2 members shall be architects, 1 shall be an urban planner, 1 shall be a developer, and 1 shall be a construction contractor

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By: Laurie Howland http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273470 Laurie Howland Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:28:59 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273470 I’m with you @SteveBean. Trying to force affordable housing downtown is not workable or practical, and yet it keeps showing up on some people’s list of desired elements in any proposed project. People who develop property or own property downtown want to charge what the market will bear, not what people wish would happen because it sounds like a nice idea. People generally invest capital in order to make more of it, not as a nice donation to the area. It is entirely possible that the real goal is to once again make requirements so onerous and seemingly random that nobody will want to spend the time, money, and aggravation it takes to develop anything downtown.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273469 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:41:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273469 I will always defer to Tom Whitaker on zoning issues, but I am startled to learn that there is an absolute requirement. Doesn’t that amount to inclusionary zoning?

Reading Article VI, Supplementary Regulations Item 5.80, I find that the language cited by Tom is present. The language under Planned Projects is what I remember, a menu of possible public benefits.

My point was not to address the practicability of affordable housing downtown (it must and will always be subsidized since the market can’t provide it) but to point out that the purpose of such premiums was presumably to encourage its provision. It should not be a way to purchase additional FAR, etc. by a simple cash payment.

I thought that Westphal’s comments about the effects of such payments increasing the overall cost of housing were very perceptive. The PUD system leaned toward extortion in the old days, when developers were required to make various payments in order to build much of anything downtown. The revision in downtown zoning was intended, as I recall, partly to eliminate the need for PUDs under most circumstances.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273467 Steve Bean Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:22:36 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273467 “Ray Detter reported that he was speaking for the downtown citizens advisory council,… Detter thought it should be D2 or some kind of hybrid zoning, because it would have an impact on the nearby residential and historic neighborhood.”

“Detter thought” or ‘CAC recommended’? This isn’t the first time that Ray’s public words have been difficult to distinguish from CAC’s supposed consensus or majority opinion.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273463 Steve Bean Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:06:05 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273463 “However, this practice did not lead to more affordable housing downtown.”

Not that anything could. Downtown housing—other than that of low quality—will always be more expensive than housing elsewhere in the city. The well-intended notion of defying that reality isn’t doing anyone any good at this point (if it ever did). Any evidence (or a cogent argument) to the contrary?

Our urban core is surrounded by neighborhoods that hold a housing stock diverse in size, age, ownership, form, energy efficiency, occupancy, and lot size. All areas are walkable and bikeable to varying (mostly positive) degrees and are served by the bus system. If that’s somehow not sufficient, maybe we could clarify why not so that we don’t spin our wheels on downtown ‘affordable housing’.

Maybe ‘affordable housing’ requirements (or premiums) are a psychological crutch that allow some people to justify development that they’re not totally comfortable with. On the flip side, maybe they’re hoped to serve as a barrier to such developments. I don’t know. Just guessing.

I once posted a comment somewhere (aa.com?) describing affordable housing as energy-efficient, small units (<1000 sq. ft.?) on small lots with solar access and sufficient land (0.1-0.2 acre?) to grow a significant portion of the occupants' food, etc., etc. The irrational feedback on that comment from other posters was interesting.

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273462 Tom Whitaker Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:59:43 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273462 In regard to the composition of the design review board, it’s very important that the board be made up of individuals with some level of knowledge of architecture and planning to minimize decisions that are based on personal taste or politics, or that are arbitrary. This will not only result in better buildings, but also help the City withstand any challenges to the ordinance or the board’s decisions.

In addition to some background and knowledge in the field, it is imperative that board members be well-versed in the design guidelines themselves, as well as relevant zoning ordinances and the master plan. That could come from some level of training for board members or a test, or both. This board cannot be made up of the usual political appointees with only a casual interest or worse, an agenda.

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273461 Tom Whitaker Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:45:40 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273461 Where a PUD has a residential component, and the number of units exceeds the underlying zoning or the master plan recommendations by up to 25%, then 10% of the units must be “affordable to lower income households.” If the proposed number of units exceeds the underlying zoning or master plan recommendations by OVER 25%, then 15% of the units must be affordable. If the math results in a fractional unit, then the developer has the option to make a cash payment or provide another unit to cover the fraction.

PUD or premium, in my opinion, the current calculation for determining “lower income” is flawed and results in rents that are not much different that what the market will bear. Also, building new “affordable” units in areas close to campus does nothing to address the real need for affordable housing for working adults and families.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/10/14/downtown-zoning-review-nears-final-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-273458 Vivienne Armentrout Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:26:16 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=122200#comment-273458 Regarding the affordable housing premium, I’m not sure whether the paragraph quoting Kirk Westphal actually relates his comments in paraphrase or whether part of it was intended as editorial explanation. It is not true that PUDs required affordable housing. Affordable housing was simply one of the “public benefits” that could be advanced to win approval. It became standard practice at a certain time for developers to offer an “in lieu” payment to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. (That was before most affordable housing came under the aegis of the Urban County.) However, this practice did not lead to more affordable housing downtown.

There were suggestions made at the DDA in connection with the Connecting William Street process that perhaps the affordable housing premium could be awarded to developers for a similar in lieu payment. That is different in quality from simply offering a payment as part of a PUD packet. It would be a straightforward cash purchase of more FAR. I’m glad the commission took that possibility out of their recommendations.
I believe that the premium was intended to help provide affordable housing downtown, not as a development assist.

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