Comments on: In it for the Money: Miss America http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=in-it-for-the-money-miss-america it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: David Erik Nelson http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/comment-page-1/#comment-282673 David Erik Nelson Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:07:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=125150#comment-282673 I don’t normally chime in, but wanted to take a sec to thank folks for chiming in so thoughtfully, and to singly out Tom for his clarification and attention re: Lenora Slaughter. I’ve written a bit more about this column, the response its garnered, and local media here: [link]

Thank you again for reading and for doing this thing that we all do together.

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By: Tom Moletteire http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/comment-page-1/#comment-281834 Tom Moletteire Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:49:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=125150#comment-281834 I am a huge fan of the Miss America program as well as a volunteer. I currently serve as the Executive Director of the Miss Hollywood pageant in California – a Miss America local preliminary. This has to be one of the most insightful articles I have ever read about the Miss America pageant. Thank you David Erik Nelson for taking the time to write it.

I must correct you on one grave error. In note #2 you mention Lenora Slaughter instituting rule #7. That is not true. Rule #7 was initiated at the local level only and not all locals had such a rule. By the way, the rule predates Lenora’s involvement with the pageant as some locals excluded black women as early as 1924. The national pageant has never had a requirement about race in order to compete. Women of color have competed at Miss America dating back to the 1920s. In fact, Lenora Slaughter is the one who outlawed rule #7 back in 1948 when a local pageant in Washington was told by the state pageant that they could not allow women from the local Native American reservation to compete. (Note that Native American women had already competed at the national level – two that I can recall off the top of my head, made the semi-finals in 1940 and 1941.) Lenora intervened and allowed the local to accept Native Americans as contestants. The Miss Hawaii and Miss Puerto Rico pageants were started in 1948 and they sent their winners (most of whom were not white) to Miss America. Harriet Vawter – a black woman – competed in the 1948 Miss Philadelphia pageant. Nine black women competed in the 1948 Miss West Oakland pageant in California. Three black women won local Miss America preliminaries in 1959. Consider also that some of the Puerto Rico titleholders were likely biracial – Hispanic and Black.

Two possible stories about the pageant to consider 1- That a woman was in charge of the pageant during a time when most women worked at home. 2 – The pageant actually ended rules that promoted racism in 1948. (Although let us not kid ourselves – many local pageants found creative ways around the ban on racism.)

Just thought you would want to know.

Thanks for the great read!
Tom

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By: Kai Petainen http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/comment-page-1/#comment-281519 Kai Petainen Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:20:46 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=125150#comment-281519 I was surprised that the Ann Arbor news wasn’t there… on that same day, SPARK and the mayor of Ann Arbor spoke as well.

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By: Bob Elton http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/comment-page-1/#comment-281384 Bob Elton Sat, 23 Nov 2013 03:42:46 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=125150#comment-281384 I see real diversity, not the kind most Ann Arborites talk about all the time, every day at my day job. I sit next to guy from northern India, and I learned about visa problems. Across the aisle is a Chinese woman. She works with a guy from Romania who emigrated to Canada, and commutes from Windsor every day. Another colleague emigrated to Canada from Abu Dabi, along with a guy from Italy, also living in Canada. My boss grew up in rural Ohio. His boss is a woman who went to an Ivy League college. Our expert in mechanisms is a guy whose parents escaped Cuba and got to Florida. One of the top people in our department is a black guy who grew up in Detroit. I could go on. The point is, real diversity is when you get a group like this all working together, and working well.

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By: Ben Connor Barrie http://annarborchronicle.com/2013/11/21/in-it-for-the-money-miss-america/comment-page-1/#comment-280867 Ben Connor Barrie Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:25:09 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=125150#comment-280867 That is probably the best selfie ever. It is a selfie, right?

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