Comments on: June 16, 2014: Council Live Updates http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=june-16-2014-council-live-updates it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316702 Tom Whitaker Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:41:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316702 It’s not a public asset, it’s a private non-profit.

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By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316615 Fred Zimmerman Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:41:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316615 @21 – nothing inconsistent about our views, but SPARK is one of the public assets that needs to be stewarded, not bashed — and there’s a lot of bashing in the atmospherics.

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By: Tom Whitaker http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316586 Tom Whitaker Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:50:03 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316586 Communities need not join the arms race to the bottom by depleting schools and other vital government services in order to fund private enterprise. Ask any CEO with vision beyond 3 years what attracts them to a community and they will tell you its the quality of life for their workers and the availability of talent. Talent comes from quality schools and universities. Quality of life comes from good government stewardship of public assets and high quality services. That is how you enable, not only entrepreneurs, but everyone to thrive. Build it and they will come and stay. Throw money at them and they will use you and move on.

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By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316566 Fred Zimmerman Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:45:23 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316566 This is meant as an open-minded remark for curiosity’s sake rather than an attempt to persuade, since the implications cut both ways, but economic development funding is different from social service funding at least one major respect, which is that economic development is an “arms race” that to some extent pits communities against one another. Opting out entirely is unrealistic and holding oneself to higher standards than competitors might be self-defeating. The question is how to be smart about economic development, and I think that means having a focus on entrepreneurship and enablers rather than subsidies and incentives. It should be a battle of wits rather than a battle of dollars. I would find the calls for better data and more equitable spending more convincing if they were coupled with a more visible commitment to enabling entrepreneurship.

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By: Vivienne Armentrout http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316550 Vivienne Armentrout Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:28:33 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316550 That’s Dave DeVarti, not Davarti.

I heard his statement (which is also reported accurately here) and he did not have time to explain his point fully. I would guess that he is referring to the outcome-based metrics that are increasingly being used to judge social service non-profits. Rather than simply awarding an agency a sum of money to continue their work, they are obligated to say how many were served or saved, or whatever. Here, for example, is the report from the County OCED on entitlement funding (thanks to the Chronicle’s excellent archives). [link]

“In 2013, human service nonprofits supported by the Washtenaw Coordinated Funders served thousands of individuals across six priority areas: 3,968 individuals in Aging priority area programs; 447 individuals in Early Childhood priority area programs, 6,268
individuals in Housing & Homelessness priority area programs, 28,544 individuals in Hunger Relief priority area programs, 10,773 individuals in Safety Net Health & Nutrition priority area programs, and 2,580 individuals in School-Aged Youth priority area programs.”

To the point: since nonprofit agencies providing a variety of services (not just human services) are held to a strict standard of accountability, it is reasonable to expect that SPARK should be similarly accountable, not just say “trust us to do a lot of good stuff”. This is especially true given the high compensation levels of the staff.

I was heartened that Council chose to table the item. Good things can happen!

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By: Jeff Hayner http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316541 Jeff Hayner Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:27:54 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316541 @17-

Using social services as an example of accountability is not meant (in my case at least) as a call for increased funding for such, or even as an endorsement of such. It simply represents one of the many categories of spending- outside of what I consider a city’s core service mission- that Ann Arbor has gotten itself into. Mr. Davarti’s suggestion that all recipients of city funds be treated equally is the right one- the accountability bar should be set the same height for all external organizations that ask for and receive taxpayer dollars.

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By: Fred Zimmerman http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316450 Fred Zimmerman Tue, 24 Jun 2014 03:14:41 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316450 I knew the comment about climate change deniers would infuriate a few people, but no intention of smearing anyone. I simply observed that the “call for proof” tactic is a familiar one. My 14-year-old, whom I dearly love, also relies on it heavily. “Prove it!” he often says in response to the most commonplace observation.

Of course my observation is anecdotal, and no more dispositive than any other anecdotal observation. I simply offer an alternate perspective that doesn’t seem to be well represented here. Given the Council vote and the comments by Hiefte et al. reported here, I am not the only person who sees this as a sort of self-righteous kerfuffle.

One theme that does seem to run through all these comments is that people would prefer more social service agencies and less support for tech companies. My preference is precisely the opposite, I would like to see Ann Arbor do less to provide social services and do more to provide support for entrepreneurs — though I hasten to add, the more micro the better. Perhaps we can find common ground on that point.

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By: Kai Petainen http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316423 Kai Petainen Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:06:21 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316423 according to Krutko at the city council meeting, SPARK itself has 22 employees….

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By: Jeff Hayner http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316402 Jeff Hayner Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:20:18 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316402 @11 –

On the face of it, Parks & Rec is a more equitable, though not necessarily “the best use” (whatever that metric is) of taxpayer money, as everyone can enjoy a park who chooses to go there, but not everyone can enjoy SPARKs assistance with their business, only tech and bio-tech companies who pay to play. Where is the economic assistance for small business outside of the tech sector that is the focus of SPARK? If it exists, you can bet their executive directors are not pulling down $250K+ /year. Check out GuideStar to see some comparative non-profit salaries.

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By: Jeff Hayner http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/06/16/june-16-2014-council-live-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-316401 Jeff Hayner Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:09:31 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=138965#comment-316401 @11-
Anyone is free to contact me directly for a first-hand story of how SPARK failed an established tech company in SPARK’s early days (2001), if they would like a counter to the handful of success stories that have come before council. I encourage interested readers to watch the entirety of my remarks, this Chronicle report only captures a small part of what I said.

I liked Mr. Davarti’s suggestion that SPARK and LDFA be held merely to the same standards of accountability that social service agencies are held to, since they are both non-profits receiving taxpayer dollars, they should be held to similar levels of accountability, which they currently are not. No one is asking for “infinite proof”- just the standard yearly reports. SPARK has been held to a much lower standard of accountability than social service agencies until recently; furthurmore, they have ignored repeted requests for standard tax forms to be made public. That is why I considered sending in a complaint form to the IRS, failure to provide 990′s upon request is an offense which qualifies a non-profit for IRS investigation. As for enriching CEO’s, I guess that depends on one’s perspective. Two salaries in excess of $250,000/ year for a non-profit seems excessive to this taxpayer.

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