Comments on: Column: Parking Oversight, Please http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=column-parking-oversight-please it's like being there Tue, 16 Sep 2014 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Donna Estabrook http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-324506 Donna Estabrook Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:41:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-324506 Sandi – You are correct that many items are available downtown. I don’t mind paying more for quality goods. I do shop at Kerrytown, The food Co-op, Farmer’s Market, Downtown Home and Garden. I was thinking of “downtown” as mostly Main St and adjacent blocks where there used to be 2 hardware stores, department store, toy store, work-clothing store, etc. These are what I call “regular” stores. I realize that downtown areas must change in order to remain viable but I miss being able to do most of my everyday shopping in town.
Re dishpan – since I don’t have a dish-washing machine I wash dishes by hand and use a dishpan rather than filling up the sink with hot water.

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By: Sandi Smith http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-324490 Sandi Smith Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:46:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-324490 @ 8 & 10, I have lived downtown for nearly 20 years and have found it to have grown more livable over the years, not less. In addition to a twice a week farmers’ market, for food we have a co-op, a meat market, a fish monger, and a high end deli just in Kerrytown. There are many places to find a unique gift item, a toy, a special card and wrapping paper. For household items that you don’t find at the co-op, try Downtown Home and Garden. If you find them pricey, think about the quality. The pans I bought there will last my lifetime and more (although they were certainly heavy carrying home. And in regards to pricing, I have heard the argument that the food choices are just too expensive. While individual items can cost a little more downtown than at Meijer or Kroger, I find that I waste less by buying fresh just what we need, a few times a week. Add in the cost savings of not owning and maintaining a car and that argument really falls flat. Now I am not sure where you find a dishpan downtown, (and I am not really sure what one is) I bet you can find one at Kiwanis.

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By: Donna Estabrook http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-324058 Donna Estabrook Sat, 16 Aug 2014 23:46:49 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-324058 I live within easy walking distance of downtown (and also do not own a car) so parking in the downtown area is not an issue for me. However, I agree with Lyn @8 about not shopping downtown. My reasons may be different from hers. Downtown is now what I would call an entertainment center. Main street and adjacent blocks consist of restaurants, gift shops, galleries, night clubs. There is no food store,(except quite expensive ones near campus), no hardware store, no department store, no place to buy a dishpan. All these “regular” stores have been forced out by high rents and (we come full circle) “no place to park”.

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-324024 Dave Askins Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:33:55 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-324024 Re: “However, Dave may be lumping the city residents who don’t live downtown into the “retail/transactional customers and visitors” category,…”

Yes, I meant that to be a description of a behavioral category not a description of geographic origin. But I think it’s still useful to ask the question implicit in Floyd’s comment: Where are retail/transactional customers and visitors coming from? One low effort way (compared to windshield flyer surveys, for example) to get some initial insight would be to analyze the zip code information collected from those who use credit cards to pay at on-street metered kiosks.

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By: Lyn Davidge http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-324023 Lyn Davidge Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-324023 Agreed, John.

However, Dave may be lumping the city residents who don’t live downtown into the “retail/transactional customers and visitors” category, and I would add also Greater Ann Arbor residents who don’t live in the city. This Scio resident makes only very carefully planned trips downtown, and that includes parking planning — and only when there’s no alternative. It’s not really too much of an exaggeration to say that, in general, I avoid Downtown like the plague. For an easier, more pleasant routine shopping and errand trip, I’m likely to go to Dexter. And, as a lifelong Ann Arbor resident and fiercely proud Townie, I think that’s sad.

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By: John Floyd http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-323922 John Floyd Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:48:00 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-323922 Omitted constituency: city residents who don’t live downtown. To lump these in with Toledoans or Dearbornites seeking an urbane experience is to 1) dismiss the idea of “Ann Arbor” as more than the DDA zone; and 2) to acknowledge that the Downtown Crowd views the rest of is as nothing more than fodder for the downtown corporate welfare grist mill.

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By: DrData http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-323718 DrData Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:47:35 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-323718 Yep.

But, who are we kidding? Do we think this article and comments are going to be acted upon?

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By: Dave Askins http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-323715 Dave Askins Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:36:22 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-323715 Re: “Metered on-street parking should not be free until 9pm”

DrData, for sake of absolute clarity, could this suggestion also be phrased as: “Metered on-street parking should be enforced until 9 p.m. – not just until 6 p.m. like it is now.”?

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By: DrData http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-323712 DrData Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:08:19 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-323712 UM has an energy survey, which shows that the US consumer is very resistant to increasing gasoline prices, more so than home energy prices: [link]

I suspect consumers are also resistant to increased parking prices based on the comments to annarbor.com when this was last discussed. Folks will drop $80 for dinner and drinks but complain because they had to pay for parking or that they had to pay $4 for parking instead of $3.20. Folks are also sympathetic to the low-paid workers who depend on that free at 6pm meter.

Still, I would encourage the city council to use their parking spaces more efficiently. Charge more for the most popular spots and less for underutilized spots. This does not have to be real dynamic pricing that changes all the time. A few simple changes would do the trick.

Charge more for metered parking and surface lots.

Metered on-street parking should not be free until 9pm

Charge less for the least utilized space – already doing this with some of the metered spaces on the edge of the downtown district, which go for 0.80 an hour. I would love to see different rates for different structures. I am pretty sure folks would continue to fill up the Washington/Fourth structure at a slightly higher price. And, savvy consumers could save money by parking in the Ann structure.

Keep a few odd pricing schemes – the set price after 3pm (Tally Hall pricing scheme) or the $4 daily price for the lot across from the Y. These serve a useful purpose.

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By: Steve Bean http://annarborchronicle.com/2014/08/12/column-parking-oversight-please/comment-page-1/#comment-323634 Steve Bean Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:15:50 +0000 http://annarborchronicle.com/?p=143549#comment-323634 Dave, you referenced three categories of the parking population but didn’t discuss the third, downtown residents. I wonder if the DDA’s “narrative” now includes them. Seems like reality probably does. My perspective on it is that their demand, though currently real to whatever extent, will decline even more rapidly than for others. First, those that also work in the downtown (or elsewhere in the city for that matter) can commute and access services without a car (or for a couple or family, with fewer cars). Second, if they work outside the city, they’re more likely to move out of the downtown, taking their parking demand with them. Both thoughts reflect the assumption that financial and economic forces will weigh on not all but many of those residents much more heavily in the near future, leading to car-ownership decisions. Another question that comes to mind is what percentage of them currently own cars and store them in the public system.

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