Carsten Hohnke and Mike Anglin, both of Ward 5, framed by the chairs of Christopher Taylor and Leigh Greden, both of Ward 3.

Outside the Larcom Building around 6 p.m., Ann Arbor Police Lt. Michael Logghe was using a “slim Jim” to try to gain entry to a citizen’s car. The woman had locked herself out of her vehicle with the engine running.

She was there to pay a $15 parking ticket. She was hoping to avoid a call to the tow truck. Logghe had not achieved success by the time The Chronicle headed inside for the reception for new members of council.

Later, inside Larcom, the newly constituted city council with four new members began its year of work by approving the transfer of a liquor license to Quickie Burger, three drainage projects to be implemented to reduce phosphorus load along Allen Creek, plus a contract with Dawn Farms to provide in-patient and out-patient drug abuse counseling and rehabilitation services to the 15th Judicial District Court.

Quickie Burger

A well-attended reception for new councilmembers preceded the meeting Monday, and The Chronicle spent part of that time chatting with Bob Snyder, president of the South University Neighborhood Association. As that reception blended into folks settling in for the meeting, Snyder offered his view of the agenda item concerning Quickie Burger’s liquor license. “Quickie Burger with a liquor license is like a Montessori School with a liquor license,” he laughed.

Councilmember Stephen Rapundalo reiterated the sentiments he expressed at the Nov. 6 council meeting, indicating that he would not support the transfer of the license to Quickie Burger, citing suitability and fit at its 800 S. State St. location. Specifically, he noted that while there are three party stores with licenses, no restaurant-type establishments had them. Rapundalo said that his concern – which he reported was shared by a number of other restaurateurs in the area – stemmed from the implications of the liquor license for policing that area, which he characterized as “in the heart of student country,” with residential areas immediately across the street, not just in the general vicinity.

Dan Dever, legal counsel for Quickie Burger.

Councilmember Margie Teall led off several supporting comments by saying that she’d “gone back and forth on this, but I think will be supporting it.” She said that part of town could use some vibrancy and attention and that she wanted to see some more activity in this little area.

Councilmember Mike Anglin couched his support in terms of supporting a business decision on the part of the owners. “It’s a large decision on their part, a major move that a business in our community is making,” he said. He said that we needed to be very careful that we don’t drive businesses out and that we needed to treat them with a welcoming approach. Anglin pointed out that licenses would be subject to annual review under the liquor committee’s revitalized commitment to bringing Ann Arbor’s process in compliance with state requirements, and that if there were any complaints they could be dealt with in that review process.

Councilmember Leigh Greden said he supported the analysis of Anglin and Teall. He said he wanted to confirm for the public that alcohol sales stop at 2 a.m. with only food served from 2-4 a.m. Greden requested and received confirmation from Quickie Burger’s counsel, Dan Dever, that staff at Quickie Burger would continue to be thoroughly trained to enforce service times as well as the age requirement.

For councilmember Carsten Hohnke, what convinced him to support the license transfer was that police and fire services departments at the city had approved the application, there were no objections from city staff, and he didn’t see any objective criteria on the basis of which he could object.

Councilmember Tony Derezinski echoed the same sentiments as Hohnke.

Councilmember Marcia Higgins sought clarification about the location of the outdoor service component of the Quickie Burger application. As discussion with Quickie Burger’s legal counsel and its owner, Kerope Arman, revealed that the outside service area was along Hill Street – contrasting with the language of the resolution, which talked about State Street – Higgins asked that the language be amended. After the clarifying amendment was passed, discussion continued.

Rapundalo addressed specific points made by his colleagues. “I don’t want my view to be misconstrued as trying to stifle local businesses,” he said, in response to Anglin’s comments. In response to Teall’s comments, he questioned the notion that the area needs more activity, saying that having ridden “party patrol” with the AAPD, he’d observed that it was extremely popular. In response to Hohnke and Derezinski, Rapundalo stressed that what the fire and police department had signed off on is simply that there are no violations on record. He assured his colleagues that there are concerns on the police force about having a liquor license there, but it’s not something they can legally state. He concluded by reiterating that suitability and fit are criteria by which a decision can be made.

Councilmember Sandi Smith weighed in with her support for the license transfer, saying that Quickie Burger serves food from 2-4 a.m. now catering to a post-bar crowd. She said that having a liquor license on site gives more control and more incentive to curb any rowdiness.

When the vote was taken, Rapundalo was joined in voting no by councilmembers Marcia Higgins and Christopher Taylor, who said after the meeting that he had based his vote on the same suitability and fit criteria as Rapundalo.

After the approval, owner Kerope Arman said he was happy with the support from council, and described the role the license would play in a Quickie Burger family dining experience: with a meal, a mom can enjoy a glass of wine, a dad can enjoy a beer, and kids can enjoy one of the recently introduced milkshakes. He described the enterprise as the brainchild of his son, Varujan, in much the same way as he did for David Erik Nelson, writing for “Current” back in September.

Drain Projects

At councilmember Sabra Briere’s request, Molly Wade, water quality manager with the city of Ann Arbor, gave some background on the three drainage projects, all designed to comply with a directive from the state to reduce phosphorus loading in the Huron River by 50% and to reduce E coli levels to those safe for bodily contact. The three projects on the agenda are a part of the 2007 Allen Creek Initiative, which is an effort to achieve the reductions in phosphorus loading. Mayor of the city of Ann Arbor, John Hieftje, elicited from Wade the consequences for not achieving the reductions, which range from state-mandated specific remedies to fines of up to $25,000 a day.

The sites for the three projects are at Pioneer High School ($4,211,242.00), the city of Ann Arbor farmers market in Kerrytown ($572,018.00), and a section along Stadium Boulevard ($702,335.00).

The Pioneer site is on the northwest corner of the school property, which gets used for parking on UM football Saturdays. The project will entail installation of giant underground storage tanks for storm water detention. The location is ideal, said Craig Hupy, manager of the systems planning unit at the city, because it sits downstream from a large portion (10%) of the watershed.

Councilmember Hohnke asked how the 93 pounds of phosphorus that the Pioneer project was expected to remove from the Allen Creek watershed would translate as progress towards the goal of 50% reduction. Hupy said that the 93 pounds was consistent with the 10% of the watershed that the area represented.

Hohnke also asked Hupy and Wade to address the concerns raised by a speaker during public commentary at the start of the meeting. The speaker was Glenn Thompson, who asked council to vote against the farmers market drain project. Thompson pointed out that if the Allen Creek storm water (which is currently contained in an underground pipe) was so polluted that this provided a rationale for why it can’t be day-lighted, it would, therefore, also not be appropriate for a market setting. He likened the envisioned water-based, educational sculpture that has been discussed for the farmers market to a fountain with contaminated water in the produce section of a grocery store. The vision for the water-based art was also something Thompson found to date poorly articulated, characterizing it as a “magic marker sketch.” Based on the small percentage of the watershed to be treated at the farmers market and the project’s cost, Thompson calculated the cost to treat the entire watershed at $2 billion dollars.

In response to Hohnke’s query, Hupy and Wade acknowledged that the main benefit of the farmers market drain project was in the potential for educational benefit: it drew people from outside who could be exposed to the educational message. Hupy said that he felt that the upfront cost to put the appropriate signage in place would pay off in the ongoing education message.

After the meeting, Wade clarified that the water to be used in the water-based sculpture at the farmers market would not be pumped up from the underground Allen Creek, but would be drawn from underground detention tanks filled from rainfall on the farmers market site.

Councilmember Smith asked if modeling of the drains would result in any relief from the phenomenon of manhole covers blown off by miniature geysers during heavy rains. Hupy said it was unlikely that residents would notice an immediate visual impact, but that the the impact would be positive.

Councilmember Anglin pointed out that modeling means measuring and monitoring flow rates and he encouraged moving forward on installing gauges in the drains.

Councilmember Rapundalo sought clarification about the financing of the projects, which will be paid for initially out of the parks millage fund and reimbursed from the storm water fund. “What won’t we be able to do?” asked Rapundalo. Hupy assured him that the short term for reimbursement (30-60 days) would not have a negative impact.

In light of the increased construction activity near the farmers market for other reasons (Fifth Avenue, for example) in the coming year, councilmember Briere asked if there was coordination with the DDA. Hupy said that the DDA had been at the table through the entire process.

Hieftje elicited from Hupy the fact that there are partners on the projects in the form of the township, the road commission, and state highway department and the Ann Arbor Public Schools.

All three projects were approved unanimously.

Sobriety Court Grant Program

The contract with Dawn Farm to provide in-patient and out-patient drug abuse counseling and rehabilitations service to the 15th District Court totals $101,050. Councilmember Briere opened discussion by noting that the contract does not meet the conditions of the city’s living wage ordinance (which requires entities to pay their employees $10.33 an hour with health care, or else $10.96 without health care). But she asked that her colleagues consider the non-monetary room-and-board compensation as part of the equation. “I hope that we can bend the rules just a little bit on this one,” she said.

Councilmember Higgins noted that council had repeatedly adjusted the amounts with and without health care.

Higgins cast the lone vote against the contract. In her subsequent communications to council, she said that when we decide to bend our ordinances, we should think about changing the ordinance: “We should have an open policy discussion instead of bending ordinances.” Higgins noted that the issue of the living wage had come up in the last year in connection with summer festival grants.

Appointments

A council rules committee was appointed, which will consist of Derezinski, Higgins, and Briere.

Other council appointments included: Derezinski to planning commission; Hohnke to greenbelt advisory commission; Teall and Hohnke to the environmental commission.

Richard Beedon was appointed to fill Mike Reid’s unexpired term through June 30, 2009 on the Local Development Finance Authority (LDFA). Reid resigned over a disagreement concerning the amount and timetable that Ann Arbor SPARK, an economic development agency funded in part by the LDFA, would be required to reimburse monies it had claimed but was not entitled to.

Public Commentary

In addition to Glenn Thompson, whose commentary is summarized above, two other members of the public spoke.

Jim Northrup of Ann Arbor Hydraulics with a Stirling engine and a roll of lenticular lens material

Tom Partridge: Partridge called for access to jobs for Michigan residents, universal health care, universal affordable public transportation, and access to affordable lifetime public-supported education, not just in public schools, but in institutions of higher education. He asked council to pass a resolution calling on Michigan’s congressional delegation to address these things, which he said Michigan sorely needs.

Jim Northrup: Northrup, of Ann Arbor Hydraulics, brought a role of lenticular lens material, and a Stirling engine as eye candy for “show and tell.” But what he was before council to request was access to the city’s recycling stream for fresnel lenses from televisons. He wants to use the giant magnifying lenses for research. City administrator Roger Fraser asked Northrup to leave his contact information.

Update on Keys

The vehicle was gone by the time the meeting ended. Either Logghe or a tow truck operator achieved success.

Present: John Hieftje, Sandi Smith, Sabra Briere, Tony Derezinski, Stephen Rapundalo, Leigh Greden, Christopher Taylor, Margie Teall, Marcia Higgins, Carsten Hohnke, Mike Anglin. Absent: none.

Next meeting: Monday, Dec. 1 at 7 p.m. in council chambers, 2nd floor of the Guy C. Larcom, Jr. Municipal Building, 100 N. Fifth Ave.

Transfer of Class C Liquor License to Quickie Burger

The question of whether to grant a transfer of a Class C liquor license to Quickie Burger, located at 800 S. State Street, had been postponed from the last council meeting on Nov. 6, and it had previously been postponed from Aug. 18, a fact that in the course of discussion caught the attention of Derezinski, who was concerned that the issue not be simply pushed down the road. Higgins clarified that the Aug. 18 postponement was not so much a postponement as an acknowledgment that the application was not ready to be brought before council, and was not actually discussed at that meeting.

Hohnke got things rolling by asking what the nature of councilmember Stephen Rapundalo’s reservations were regarding the transfer of the license to Quickie Burger, which he had voiced at the last council meeting. Higgins clarified that Rapundalo’s concerns had to do with the fact that in the immediate geographic area, there were not other liquor licenses of this kind – for restaurants and bars (although there are package liquor stores in the neighborhood). And a further concern of Rapundalo’s, said Higgins, was that the population living in the immediate vicinity were mostly students.

Smith said that she felt that it was somewhat arbitrary to decide where a liquor license should go, given that all other criteria were met. Later in the discussion, Smith would reiterate much the same sentiment, saying that she questioned whether the density of students in the area was enough to say that Quickie Burger cannot complete their business plan. It’s a line that we can draw, she said, but wondered if we want to draw it based on “the typical occupancy of homes in the area.”

Higgins stated that it was definitely within the jurisdiction of council to decide geographic allocation of liquor licenses. And she said that other businesses she’d heard from did not support the license transfer – not because of the fear of competition, but rather because they were concerned about the negative impact it could have on the character of the neighborhood. Higgins, who represents Ward 4 where Quickie Burger is located, put the possible transfer of the liquor license in the context of an area where she said there was an ongoing problem. She saw the addition of a liquor license to Quickie Burger to be “just one more thing to deal with in trying to get the area to be more stable.”

Briere said that it was somewhat frustrating to her to hear of the concerns only when the issue came before council at the last meeting, and wished that any concerns had been discussed by the liquor committee itself so that councilmembers would have had advance opportunity to formulate questions and get them answered in a timely way. Further, she said, because Rapundalo did not attend caucus that evening, she was unable to get answers at that meeting (Note: Caucus gatherings are optional for members of council).

Briere said she had not reached any conclusions yet, but had identified some reasons that could not be reasonably used to object to the license transfer, as well as some that could be used to object, without committing herself to objecting for those reasons. Not possible reasons for objection: (i) students might drink (ii) students might drink at late hours. Possible reasons for objection: (iii) ease of passing alcohol to underage drinkers in a sidewalk location (which Quickie Burger is seeking) (iv) creation of different business climate due to lucrative nature of serving alcohol.

Hohnke said that he felt it was unlikely that there would be a flood of businesses seeking liquor licenses in the area, because it fell outside the DDA boundary, and they would not be eligible for the numerous redevelopment licenses that are available inside the DDA area. They would therefore have to compete for the relatively scarce Class C licenses.

Derezinski offered the historical perspective of Dominick’s immediately adjacent to UM Law School, which he said he recalled from his law school days was not allowed to serve alcohol. It was, he said, regarded as a kind of Maginot Line guarding the South University area. When a liquor license was granted to Dominick’s, service of alcohol extended to the South University area. From his perspective, said Derezinski, this had not led to problems. Higgins said that there were any number of ongoing problems.

Councilmembers identified some key questions they would seek clarity on before and during Monday’s meeting, which will likely include a closed session with Mary Fales of the city attorney’s office to request legal advice on the issue. The questions:

• How late would Quickie Burger be able to serve alcohol if the license were transfered?
• Does city council have the option of separating out permission to serve alcohol inside the establishment versus in the sidewalk serving area?

Facts for Government Geeks

On city council’s Monday agenda is a resolution determining the order of succession for the office of mayor. The resolution is a list of names as opposed to an algorithm, but Higgins explained the algorithm during caucus discussion: after mayor pro tem, members of council are sorted first by date of their start of current council service, and then alphabetically. The list of names on the agenda assumes that Higgins will be elected mayor pro tem at the meeting, and unless Christopher Taylor makes a move to take that spot, he will be last in the succession order. (D comes before H comes before S comes before T). Higgins also indicated that she would be asking for the creation of a rules committee to clean up some of the language from a recent major revision effort. Derezenski and Briere said they would volunteer to serve with Higgins on that committee.

Hohnke raised a question about three very similar agenda items involving a request of the county drain commissioner to construct drainage projects in various locations.

• On the Pioneer High School Grounds to Reduce Downstream Flooding and Improve Water Quality ($4,414,300 Project Amount; $4,211,242 City Share) (Roll Call Vote Required)
• At the Ann Arbor Farmers Market to Reduce Downstream Flooding and Improve Water Quality and to Appropriate Funds for these Stormwater Management Improvements ($599,600 Project Amount;
  $572,018 City Share) (8 Votes Required) (Roll Call Vote Required)
• Along Stadium Boulevard to Reduce Downstream Flooding and Improve Water Quality ($736,200 Project Amount; $702,335 City Share) (Roll Call Vote Required)

Why does the second of these require eight votes when the others do not? Higgins supplied the answer. We’ll leave comments open for readers who’d like to prove their government geek mettle by giving the explanation.

Developers for the City Apartments PUD show elevations and materials to city council.

On a night when nobody showed up for public commentary reserved time, council passed the majority of its agenda items with no discussion. Noteworthy exceptions included the City Apartments PUD project (passed), Quickie Burger’s application for a liquor license transfer (postponed), and a decision to go into closed session (passed – with the discussion and dissent by councilmember Marcia Higgins fairly characterized as somewhat lighthearted). The mood was a little more relaxed than is typical, and a bit sentimental, as council said farewell to four of its members: Ron Suarez, Joan Lowenstein, Stephen Kunselman, and Chris Easthope.

City Apartments Background

The PUD proposal by Village Green Residential Properties, LLC at the corner of First and Washington, across from the Blind Pig, includes 156 dwelling units and 244 public parking spaces. Formerly, a city parking structure stood on the lot. That structure was demolished and is currently being used temporarily as a surface parking lot. The project was given approval by the city’s planning commission by a 7-0 vote.

At the planning commission’s public hearing there had been objections to the PUD by neighbors who thought that the building was simply too massive and out of scale. Aside from sheer height, aesthetic objections included the south wall of the building, which would be windowless – a blank wall. This was a design feature that planning commissioner Ethel Potts also lamented in her comments at that meeting. In response to the explanation that building codes prohibited windows in buildings built that close to the lot line, Potts said that it was the developer’s decision to go that close to the line, and that if windows were a priority, the building could have been set back from the line.

A concern was also brought forward by then-candidate for Ward 5 council representative, John Floyd, that the capture by the Downtown Development Authority of the tax increment due to development would result in no extra revenue to the city’s general budget to accommodate the extra burden of the residents living in the building.

Owner of Downtown Home & Garden, Mark Hodesh, also spoke at the planning commission’s public hearing, and expressed his support for the project, but also some frustration on the status of his specific concerns that he’d conveyed previously. Those concerns focused on the alley that runs between Liberty and Washington, splitting the block. When built, City Apartments, including its public parking spaces, will stand on one side of the alley, with Hodesh’s store on the other.

At planning commission’s public hearing, Hodesh raised four specific concerns: (i) trash pickup: how will its timely removal after setting out be assured? (ii) snow removal: who will take responsibility for snow removal in what will become a pedestrian thoroughfare? (iii) lighting: is there adequate lighting to ensure public safety? (iv) traffic in the alley: how will apartment move-in and move-out events be coordinated, given other alley-users’ interests?

Related to the last point (and of interest to downtown development watchers), Hodesh indicated that alley traffic could be expected to increase beyond what City Apartments would add. He said that he had plans of his own to expand in the back of his building, and that Gui Ponce de Leon had plans for a luxury hotel at the south end of the block.

City Apartments Council Discussion

Hodesh’s concerns were raised by councilmember Stephen Kunselman at council last night. Kunselman asked the developers how the concerns of neighboring businesses had been addressed. With respect to the lighting, the developers said that more lighting had been added. They also said that concerns about blocking the alley would be addressed by internal communication to City Apartments residents concerning preferred timing and locations for move-in and move out.

They said they expected about 40% turnover from year to year. So for 156 units, that worked out to 60-62 move-ins/move-outs per year, or 5 per month. The 10 moving events per month, they said, paled compared to restaurant deliveries common in other downtown alleys. Plus, said the developers, they had experience managing 35,000 units across the country: “We know how to do this.” They stressed, however, that they were based here regionally in Farmington Hills, and fully intended to retain this building permanently.

Councilmember Mike Anglin Stephen Kunselman asked if the plan was to lease by the unit or by the bed. Answer: by the unit. This is not a student housing development, the developers said, while emphasizing that they would be happy to rent to students – as long as the students were interested in renting a whole 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom, or whatever-sized unit.

Councilmember Chris Easthope asked why brick was not chosen for the facade, instead of the corrugated metal. Easthope pointed out that the predominant material for building facades in the surrounding area – many of them historic – was brick. The developers said that given the size of the building, they feared that brick would make it feel to massive, and had opted for corrugated metal as a option that would make the building feel “lighter.”

This first reading of the PUD passed. Site plan discussion by council is tentatively scheduled for Dec. 1.

Quickie Burger

The transfer of a liquor license to Quickie Burger on South State Street had already been postponed from the Aug. 18 council meeting. Now Quickie Burger will have to wait until the newly constituted council meets on Nov. 17 to see whether the license transfer is awarded.

Councilmember Stephen Rapundalo, who sits on the liquor committee, led off the discussion by saying that he would not be supporting it. He said that he was troubled from the beginning by the application. Acknowledging that the owners run a fine establishment, he said he’s worried that it will start a precedent and others will ask as well, in an area where there are no other restaurants with licenses.

Councilmember Sabra Briere asked for clarification on the criteria for awarding a license. Rapundalo said that suitability and fit, compliance with zoning, as well as public safety from the point of view of fire protection and law enforcement were among the considerations.

Councilmember Margie Teall asked if Quickie Burger was requesting to be allowed to serve alcohol in the sidewalk seating area. City clerk Jacqueline Beaudry confirmed that Quickie Burger was, in fact, asking to be able to serve alcohol in their outside seating area. Teall said that she had a tough time thinking that this was an okay thing to do.

Kunselman asked city attorney Stephen Postema if they could vote against the license transfer on the basis of concerns about the establishment being in a predominantly student neighborhood. Postema said that he did not give legal opinions in public settings such as council meetings, but if directed by council to do so, he would reduce an opinion to writing. Kunselman then moved to postpone the decision until the next council meeting, which was seconded by Teall. Briere noted that the next meeting is on Nov. 17, when four new councilmembers will be sworn in, and suggested that some consideration be given to their need to have some time to reflect on the issue, suggesting that the postponement be until Dec. 1. When it emerged that Rapundalo would not be able to attend that meeting, Briere withdrew her suggestion.

In discussing the postponement, councilmember Ron Suarez asked, “What’s the difference between students drinking on Main Street and students drinking on State Street?” Suarez said that if the concern was about a perceived greater likelihood of underage drinking at the Quickie Burger location than anywhere on Main Street, that this concern should be allayed by our police force’s ability to enforce drinking laws. Saying that council had already helped put Everyday Cook out of business, he saw no reason to postpone. [Note: Earlier in the year, a liquor license for which Everyday Cook had competed was eventually awarded to the city itself for one of its golf courses – over Suarez's strong objections. While later one of the new redevelopment licenses created by the state was awarded to Everyday Cook, the business eventually closed.]

Kunselman weighed in for his suggested postponement saying, “Pizza Bob’s is Pizza Bob’s,” underscoring his claim that the area had not changed in his lifetime and that he did not want to see the character of the neighborhood changed to its detriment.

Anglin said that he would go along with the postponement, but as far as okaying the transfer, he said he didn’t think it was such a terrible thing.

The postponement passed.

Closed Session

In response to the motion to go into closed session to discuss land acquisition, Higgins cited a similar concern to the one Briere had mentioned earlier during the liquor license discussion: four councilmembers were serving at their last meeting and the land acquisition discussion might be better conducted with the new councilmembers in attendance. Postema said it was not his closed session. City administrator Roger Fraser said that in order to explain why it made sense to have the discussion that night, it would be necessary to go into closed session. In any case, there was laughter all around, including from Higgins, when she cast a no vote on the motion to go into closed session.

Farewell to Four

Council said farewell to four of its members: Ron Suarez, Joan Lowenstein, Stephen Kunselman and Chris Easthope. Around the table were a lot of thank-yous and much sentimental reflection, during which outgoing members, and those who will remain, exchanged expressions of mutual respect. There was also some advice offered.

Advice to citizens: Suarez said that the most important thing he learned on council was the power that citizens have. “I have seen that this body is responsive when citizens come together,” he said, and enouraged citizens to come together even more than they already have, because, “that’s where the real power is.”

Advice to councilmembers: Lowenstein said that Ann Arbor is incredibly lucky to have such a diverse community. Unfortunately, she said, that diversity is not reflected on council. She left council with the caution “to represent those whose experiences you do not share.”

Parting gifts: To start the evening, Easthope received a gift certificate to his favorite restaurant from some uniformed officers from the Ann Arbor Police Department. Later Higgins awarded the departing four with gifts from their colleagues: Kunselman received a gift certificate to Lowe’s (to build a chicken coop); Suarez received a Visa card (to facilitate purchase of some technological gadget); Lowenstein and Easthope received gift certificates for massages.

Editorial aside: The Chronicle would like to acknowledge each of the four departing councilmembers’ time of service to the community. Here’s what they looked like “in action” on their last night of service on council:

Chris Easthope: 8 years for Ward 5

Ron Suarez: 2 years for Ward 1

Joan Lowenstein: 6 + 1 years for Ward 2

Stephen Kunselman: 2 years for Ward 3

Present: Mike Anglin, Sabra Briere, Chris Easthope, Leigh Greden, John Hieftje, Marcia Higgins, Stephen Kunselman, Joan Lowenstein, Stephen Rapundalo, Ron Suarez, Margie Teall.

Absent: None.

Next meeting: Monday, Nov. 19 17 at 7 p.m. in council chambers, 2nd floor of the Guy C. Larcom, Jr. Municipal Building, 100 N. Fifth Ave.